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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Introducing Switronix batteries for the RED One

The Switronix are lithium ion technology, same as the RED bricks. They will have a similar number of cycles in their life. A 95whr brick will last about one hour and a 190whr brick will last about two hours.

Forgot to note, we don't recommend using the 190whr batteries with the hot swap mounts. The batteries each weigh more than four pounds each, so that would be a huge weight hanging off your shoulder. Certainly if you tried to use the hot sawp adapter GP-TS-RED it would probably overly-strain the battery mount.
 
I'm still thinking the advantages of Switronix 190whr over the red brick. Lasting 2 hours is one of them, red brick is less than that. Do we have to cool down the battery as well after usage ? Will RED charger detect this switronix batteries if it's ready to be charge same like red brick ?

The charging time i assume will be the same like red brick, correct me if i'm wrong.

There's a little bubble on the negative from red brick that i notice lately, will switronix going to face the same problem ? It looks like the result of hot temperature.

RV
 
If you over-discharge any lithium battery it will get a bit hot and need to cool before charging. I don't know about any "bubbling" on RED bricks that I would venture into any guesses about. Charging time will be a little longer on the larger battery as it has more capacity to be filled. I can tell you that the physical construction of the Switronix batteries is top notch, with a silicone coating on the outside that helps protect the surface.
 
ibloom said:
I just literally circled the earth with 10 Red batteries roughly 14 flights in two months.

The FAA and everyone else could care less.

IBloom
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lol, that's awesome. :sifone:
 
ibloom said:
I just literally circled the earth with 10 Red batteries roughly 14 flights in two months.

The FAA and everyone else could care less.

IBloom
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I circled the earth with SWIT's batteries that split in half so that we could take them as carry on.

I DO care if your lithiums are in the belly of the plane. Did you carry yours on?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcd34tt8YPU
 
ibloom said:
I just literally circled the earth with 10 Red batteries roughly 14 flights in two months.

The FAA and everyone else could care less.
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Ian, would you be so kind as to post your travel schedule so those of us who do care can make sure we don't share a plane with you?

You might be surprised one day when the FAA shows you how much they care with the $250,000 fine that goes along with the lithium battery rules.

Up until now you seemed like a pretty intelligent guy.
 
Can anyone show me a link to a video showing a camera battery by itself bursting into flames or something.

What do you have to do to a camera battery make it burst into flame?

If I jam a spike through a battery will it burst into flame? Proof?

I have seen the stuff where people rig up a laptop and make it burn, but they had to rig the laptop to make it happen.


Dusty
 
Keep in mind it's heat from overheating laptops making those batteries explode. Batteries sitting inert in a case will be fine.
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The batteries in that case have been out of your control. The case may have been dropped from the cargo hold, or run over by a fork lift. Damaged, shorted batteries overheat. That is why IT IS AGAINST THE LAW to ship them in the hold.

Your attitude is reckless, and disappointing. Aside from the obvious downside of several hundred people dying, one asshole whose batteries catch on fire is really going to ruin it for everyone else.

The reason Lion batteries are controlled, is because they have already brought planes down. Fortunately so far it has only been cargo aircraft.

It's not that hard to carry on your batts.

Nick
 
When did Ian ever say he did or didn't carry them on. He said he took ten. The only "issue" disclosed thus far would be the lithium content he as one person brought (which with Red bricks would be three per person so long as one is attached to a device.)

Ian has been a long standing positive contribution to this community. If you are going to call for his head at least have proof / admission of the "crime."
 
Not calling for any ones head, just trying to make sure people are aware of the actual dangers and why. We should all be responsible when safety is concerned.

Cheers,

Nick
 
J. Eric Camp said:
When did Ian ever say he did or didn't carry them on. He said he took ten. The only "issue" disclosed thus far would be the lithium content he as one person brought (which with Red bricks would be three per person so long as one is attached to a device.)
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But that is the point....only 3 can be carried on by one single person. I have had this argument with lots of crews.....why does no one listen?

The FAA does care, and no one here can speak for them. We have talked to many high ranking FAA officials, and they are quite adamant. If everyone does not start toeing the line, they will disallow all lithium. This will cause problems for everyone. This has been posted many times, but go to this link, read it and understand. This is important for our industry.

http://safetravel.dot.gov/whats_new_batteries.html


John DeBoer
Director of HD Sales
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Dustin Cross said:
What do you have to do to a camera battery make it burst into flame?

If I jam a spike through a battery will it burst into flame? Proof?

I have seen the stuff where people rig up a laptop and make it burn, but they had to rig the laptop to make it happen.
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The FAA has done extensive tests on this. Obviously, for security reasons, they will not tell you how to start a fire with them. They did not implement these rules for no reason.......

John DeBoer
Director of HD Sales
SIM VIDEO INTERNATIONAL
 
Since 100wh is the bottom limit for "Large" batteries, it seems you could carry an unlimited amount of 95wh batteries.
 
J. Eric Camp said:
When did Ian ever say he did or didn't carry them on. He said he took ten. The only "issue" disclosed thus far would be the lithium content he as one person brought (which with Red bricks would be three per person so long as one is attached to a device.)

Ian has been a long standing positive contribution to this community. If you are going to call for his head at least have proof / admission of the "crime."
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I did ask. He didn't answer.

Not trying to cause a fight. Ian is an excellent and respected contributor to this forum. But he should know that "IF" he has been putting them in the belly of the plane, he should stop - whether or not the FAA spots him or not.

In any case - perhaps we should continue this rant elsewhere and get back to the business of this thread.
 
Shawn Nelson said:
Since 100wh is the bottom limit for "Large" batteries, it seems you could carry an unlimited amount of 95wh batteries.
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That's the point of the SWIT 2 part batteries that Dan is referring too--they break apart into 2 halves, each of which is less than 100wh. Pretty ingenious solution actually. And with a D-tap built into the battery!

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"Reputable [battery] manufacturers submit to testing and safety standards set by groups such as the non-profit Underwriters Laboratories. These standards require that batteries contain built-in protections against overheating and fire"

"A properly built and properly packaged battery carries very little risk or no risk at all"

"The number of fire incidents involving lithium batteries on planes or in cargo and baggage destined for planes is relatively small: 15 documented cases since 2000 out of about 75 million flights during that period."

source - http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techpolicy/2007-03-05-batteries-planes_N.htm


"FAA official William Wilkening testified that there have been 60 incidents since 1991 [until 2006] that involved batteries catching on fire, smoking or getting hot."

source - http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ntsb-laptopbattery-upsfire,3131.html


UPS Flight 1307 is the only flight I can find anything about and they never said batteries caused the fire. Some batteries did burn in the fire, but not all the batteries.


Dusty
 
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