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Incorrect Frame Rate Indicator on LCD

Marq Lee

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I apologize if this has been addressed. I couldn't quickly find a thread on this. We have v3.0 installed and noticed the Frame Rate Indicator on the lower/Left of the LCD seems to stay on 24fps, even after changing it on the Menu.

Is this suppose to be fixed on the next firmware, cuz We didn't see it on the list.

Has or Is anyone else having this issue? Thank you.

Marq Lee
 
Marq Lee said:
I apologize if this has been addressed. I couldn't quickly find a thread on this. We have v3.0 installed and noticed the Frame Rate Indicator on the lower/Left of the LCD seems to stay on 24fps, even after changing it on the Menu.

Is this suppose to be fixed on the next firmware, cuz We didn't see it on the list.

Has or Is anyone else having this issue? Thank you.

Marq Lee
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You need to change the sittings in timebase
 
1) Go to the Settings menu at the top of the screen.
2) Open up the "Project" menu.
3) Select "Timebase".
4) Pick your timebase
 
Although correct,thats dangerous advice as changing your timebase can really screw up your shoot The indicator that you are looking at is the timebase, not the frame rate indicator. You should leave the timebase at 23:98 (most of the time). What you are looking for is varispeed, changed by holding the top of the LCD , where it says 24fps.
 
Dennis has it right. If your camera is set to a timebase of 23.98fps and you change the frame rate as you have what you are doing is shooting off speed and it will yield either slow motion or fast motion.

I think the danger that Shane is referring to is unknowingly changing the timebase in the middle of a project. If you do that nothing that has been previously shot will play back at the same speed as anything that you shoot going forward. There is no need to leave your timebase at 23.98 most of the time.
 
Scott Crawley said:
There is no need to leave your timebase at 23.98 most of the time.
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Maybe not, but I would leave it there until you understand exactly what it is. I shoot 99.5% of my projects with a timebase of 23.98. I also shoot a lot of slomo. My timebase always stays the same.
This only applies to north America BTW. In Europe, it will tend to be a 25fps timebase for television.
 
I think that Marq and most others know what timebase is, and it is the timebase that they intend to change. They have always been able to change the time base on their other cameras and I'm sure they did it all the time, they just used a different name for it. They are not used to varispeed and may not understand the difference between the two settings.

Shane Kelly said:
Maybe not, but I would leave it there until you understand exactly what it is. I shoot 99.5% of my projects with a timebase of 23.98. I also shoot a lot of slomo. My timebase always stays the same.
This only applies to north America BTW. In Europe, it will tend to be a 25fps timebase for television.
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Marq specifically referred to the frame rate indicator, not the time base indicator which is what he was looking at. Changing the time base can have larger repercussions than changing the frame rate. Some new scarlet user reading this thread might assume that we change time base all the time, when in fact, this is not the case.
I'm simply trying to clarify the issue.
 
With respect, I disagree. I don't think you understand the intent of the question so your answer is doing more to cloud the issue than clarify it. I'm not interested in creating an argument. Like you I'm just trying to help. :beer:

It seems pretty clear that he is looking to change the time base but changing the wrong setting. Unlike you I do not presume that he doesn't know WHAT he is doing, rather he doesn't know HOW to do it. The difference is fundamental.

Shane Kelly said:
Marq specifically referred to the frame rate indicator, not the time base indicator which is what he was looking at. Changing the time base can have larger repercussions than changing the frame rate. Some new scarlet user reading this thread might assume that we change time base all the time, when in fact, this is not the case.
I'm simply trying to clarify the issue.
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Scott, I, like you am trying to help. My intention is really to clarify the issue for other people who don't know what they are doing and decide they want to shoot off speed but change the time base to 30fps. As you and I know, this will not achieve the desired result.
I guess the correct answer to the original post would be: "that's the time base indicator, not your frame rate. It's not broken and will not be "fixed" in later software. It is not an issue."

Let's ask the original poster what he meant.
Marq?
Did you mean time base or frame rate?
 
Shane Kelly said:
Let's ask the original poster what he meant.
Marq?
Did you mean time base or frame rate?
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With all of the new users asking questions about time base I guess I did presume that he was asking the same question. You're right, he needs to clarify.
 
Good morning guys,

I want to thank you for your responses. Both Scott and Shane's comments were very helpful. We are new to the RED process and are learning quickly each day with your help.

Although familiar with Timebase & Frame Rates, we simply weren't aware THAT particular indicator was for the TB. We're dissecting the OP Manual as we speak.

Thank you again for both responses, as they were both helpful.

Best,
Marq Lee
 
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