In-Out Frames input frustration

[Thom Steinhoff]

There must be a way to stop in a shot and say "This is my In" or "This is my out" but I can't seem to find it. Maybe I need sleep.

I am trying to set the in and out frames to avoid needless rendering.

So far I can only do it through typing a frame number or click dragging to scrub it.

Thanks in advance.

Thom

 

[SF Geek]

That's the only option right now tom. Change the in/out in the shot tab by putting in new numbers.

 

[Thom Steinhoff]

Thanks for your response.

Do you know if there is any way to get what frame number I am currently on without doing the math?

The Frame number listed to the left of the timeline seems to be the frame from the beginning of the sequence.

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

You can also use the 'i' and 'o' keys to set in out marks. Arrow keys - up plays forward, down plays reverse, left steps single frame reverse, right single frame forward.

Or are you thinking of something else?

 

[Scott Simmons]

He might be talking about something I am struggling with. I've see talk of "building a timeline" in RedCine but say you load 4 shots ... you can mark IN and OUTs individually within a shot but I can find a way to trim all the shots down in RedCine to arrive at an edit.

I know it's not an editor but many posts have led me to believe it can edit enough to do a conform from FCP. I've successfully loaded a few xmls with RedTrip so I know it can do it but just doing to manually in the app escapes me.

Am I just an idiot missing that part?

 

[Thom Steinhoff]

You can also use the 'i' and 'o' keys to set in out marks. Arrow keys - up plays forward, down plays reverse, left steps single frame reverse, right single frame forward.

Or are you thinking of something else?

Maybe I'm crazy... Or missing something obvious...

Say I have a timeline with 4 shots and shot 3 has a bunch of false starts at the beginning and crap at the end that I want to trim.

With my radio buttons placed at "Shot" I have the Shot settings read "In: 1" Out: 450" I know that if I change these numbers, the resultant shot will be trimmed. I can change those numbers by hand--but I want to scrub them to pick the start visually rather than by guessing.

So I scrub to the middle of the shot and hit 'I', a marker is placed but the "in" on the shot settings still says 1. I can scrub some more and hit "O" which also places a marker, but the number still says 450. As far as I can tell the I and O relate to the overall timeline not to the individual shot.

I know that if I change the "in" to say 50, and the "out" to say 100, the resultant clip will only render 50 frames long. When I scrub to frame 50 of that shot, there is nothing I can find to tell me I am at frame 50 of that shot even if I wanted to enter it by hand. I would hope hitting "I" or maybe Option-I would transfer the current point in the shot to the In marker--but it doesn't--it seems to be related only to the entire timeline.

This may be a simple, well documented bug and I am happy to wait for the next release if that is the answer, but I was hoping I was missing something!

Thom

 

[Paul Leeming]

The brackets to the right of the play buttons etc should give you in/out in RedCine as well, but for some reason you have to set the out part first, then set the in part?!

I concur with your idea that a clip should be clipped on the timeline so we can kind of edit something roughly, or perhaps another option would be to set a visually hidden frame handle size so you can output the clips with exactly 24 frames front/back for example.

Cheers,

Paul

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

but for some reason you have to set the out part first, then set the in part?!

Hmmm... I don't have that problem. But I have plenty of others like REDCINE simply losing my ins/outs on the shots screen. [/QUOTE]