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import tax for Germany?

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I finally did it this morning... and even Paypal worked for me.

Does anyone of the European/German reservation holders happen to know how much import tax we probably will have to pay? Thanks in advance.
 
That's a thing I'd like to know also.
By next week I might call someone at the customs to get precise informations on tax and import fees.
 
should be about 7.5 % customs and 19% Import VAT. The 19% you will get back if you have a company registered.
 
I don't have a company registered and I just found out today that the total tax should be around 33% to import to Greece :(
How about I fly in to bring it back myself?
That way I can get an extra lens or something :)
I mean, 6k$ on top of verything else is extravagant (at least for me)
 
Jochen, RED "Video Recorder" or RED "Camera", what difference would this make in terms of customs percentage?
 
Keep in mind that you can get into trouble when you bring it in yourself and don't declare it (it's not like you bought some shirts). You have a while before the camera is in your hand, why not start talking to customs now and try to get it sorted before it's time?

Like Josch said, there might be different categories and so on!
 
8525809100 looks pretty applicable. It's a video camera which only records what it sees & hears. It could fail on the latter part though, RED ONE has audio inputs which in theory allow you to record something else.

This is what I thought when I read 8525809100. For all I know I could be very wrong ;)

Here it is in English:

http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_custom...Periodic=0&Download=0&Lang=EN&Description=yes

Otherwise I think it's category 8525809900 which is 12.5%:

http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_custom...Periodic=0&Download=0&Lang=EN&Description=yes

However, if the Euro / Dollar exchange rate stays favorable it might not be too bad? I'm assuming final tax is calculate after the import duty (don't know if that's true). If I take the 12.5% import duty and apply 19% tax on top of that I get around 18.000 Euro.
 
Michael Mann said:
Jochen, RED "Video Recorder" or RED "Camera", what difference would this make in terms of customs percentage?
Click to expand...

I don´t know.
Regarding "why camera, not recorder": You dont actually expect customs reglementation to make sense, do you?
I once bought an old car in Switzerland. I almost ended up driving it back.

Jochen
 
8525809100 does look very applicable. I wonder if the camera ships without internal recording option that it would under just video camera, rather than camcorder tarif and if that would make any difference?

Graeme
 
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8525809100 does look very applicable. I wonder if the camera ships without internal recording option that it would under just video camera, rather than camcorder tarif and if that would make any difference?

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This is going to become a major issue for many of us when we total up the extras along with the red one body.

Graeme you make a good case for ensuring that the red body is billed seperately without the red drive and red flash added (if thats possible) or EVF since i will be getting both LCD and EVF with the camera. Taxes and import dities are part of life but if red allows us to pay for the red body seperate without any recording device would it not be classified then at the lower import duty rate? If Camcorders that have the DV in, disabled, satisfies customs then a red without the recording devices might work. This is the only item that puts a real damper on things when you are trying to fully equip yourself with a good set up from the start. Does anyone know what the import duty is on lenses?

Could red be classified as a film camera with zero import duties?

Maybe those of us who are importing the red from the same countries could open themselves up to private messages between us to see what the situation is or is likely to be with the camera and extras. Who is open for UK discussion?

Michael
 
It's inputs to allow a camcorder to function as a VCR that attract the higher duty for DV-in enabled camcorders.

What I was wondering is if it's a camera, with no internal recording at all, would that make it a lower duty still???

Graeme
 
How about using the existing Oakley network of European (or worldwide) distributors to deliver Red and the accessories?
That way the customer has peace of mind that all administrative paperwork is taken care of for them.

And I just confirmed with a customs officer that the camera as plain as possible, stripped of any extras or addons is still taxed at a total of 33%
 
Well, one solution would be to ship the camera enabled for still capture only. That means no import tax. Then release a motion capture enabler patch on the net....Ok, it's on the edge, but whatever just to make Thomson/GV look stupid
 
unfortunately for me Greece, though part of the EC, has an independent taxation system :(
But again, why is it that everyone doesn't like the idea of flying in to collect it?
 
Because flying to get it doesn't stop you having to pay the tax. Best to do it properly.
 
I had a telephone call with our customs office this morning because they want me to pay tax for my desposit and titanium R. They told me that 8525809100 and 4.9% for "Digital Video Camera" is applicable.
 
it´s not a VCR - no videorecorder. I am sure, but we will discuss it with the companie we work with for all customs clearance.
If it would be a Videorecorder, every mobile phone would be one.

I will let you know, if I have talken to our guys
 
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