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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

im trying to light a person in water from 60ft away, no backlight needed . Ideas?

Camera? ASA? Lens Maximum Aperture? Area to be lit? What is the look; moonlight? Cruseship? Dock or Harbor Lights? Something else? Harsh or Soft? Fill? Power available?

Day for night comes immediately to mind...

Good shooting and best regards,

Leo
 
Operating boats have lights also: Running lights, spotlights, working lights, glow from consoles, lights for swim platforms, ambient light of cabins glowing through port holes and hatches.
How big of a vessel?
Is it out on the water or docked?
Does the light have to be 60' away or would that be the camera location?
 
generator on a boat with waterskiier behind, have 15 foot of height for lights if needed, skiier is 60ft behind, need skiier lit and water spray being picked up, more snowboard movie style lighting, 10 ft wide main area to be lit. camera z1 or ex1. would 2 kino be to much of a stretch? Also skiier cant be blinded!
 
Chase boat with a spot light to back light the whole thing, fill lights on the tow boat.

Nick
 
The Kino Flo fixtures do not have the punch you require, furthermore, you're talking about a huge area to light; not just the skier, but also the area behind him, which expands geometrically.

I suggest you just shoot day for night; try it with the sun behind him, knock it down and add some blue.

Good shooting and best regards,

Leo
 
thanks leo and nick. Leo, it has to be a night shoot, could you suggest a lighting system that would suffice our needs? Nick, budget cant cover chase boat only jetski with gopro and safety lighting. thanks for your replies
 
Joe,

Is the water area a lake or say an "alley" in the intra-coastal waterway?

I've spent a lot of time on the water and I'm trying to figure how you can safely boost lighting any way possible, but it can get incredibly dark out there.

A full moon makes a big difference on a clear night for generally getting around, on a relatively clear night, but that's not enough for shooting. I'd try to schedule it anyway.


One of those "balloon" lights might hit the spot, but I don't think you have the budget and you have to deal with a lot more physical dynamics with those making it unmanageable (wind, sail area, behavior as the thing is being towed.)

Have you done a night scout of your setting yet?
 
its a lake, the lit area only needs to cover the immediate area between the wakes of the boat where the skiier crosses, 60ft away and 10ft wide.
 
I have to raise the white flag on this one; perhaps a wiser head than mine will have the eureka moment and suggest a simple, safe, and affordable solution.

I still think day for night is the only practical solution; why must it be at night?

Good shooting and best regards,

Leo
 
800 W Joker bug HMI if your generator can handle it. That will be plenty of light, small, and somewhat inexpensive to rent. Generator will need to be rated for much more than 800 watts to spark that HMI. I'm guessing 2,000 Honda would do it, and it is also small and inexpensive to rent. Good luck!
 
I liked the wakeboarding video.

I've never used the Joker, but a spot like that on your tow boat sounds like the only way to get enough light on the situation, but it's going to be right in his eyes if you don't get it high enough.

I'm tapped out like Leo, at the moment. Good luck Joe. Please let us know what you come up with.

Also, consider contacting some of the underwater/marine specialty people here. They may have some good solutions.

Lastly, if you can get night and wakeboard or water ski in the header of your post, you might draw some of the right people into the discussion.
 
Clint Lealos said:
800 W Joker bug HMI if your generator can handle it. That will be plenty of light, small, and somewhat inexpensive to rent. Generator will need to be rated for much more than 800 watts to spark that HMI. I'm guessing 2,000 Honda would do it, and it is also small and inexpensive to rent. Good luck!
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I'm with Clint on this one. I've used Jokers tons of times and that may just do the job. Drop a medium or spot lens and give it a go. Seems like the problem here is budget. Obviously with more money you could trick out the boat with lights to cover.

Good Luck!
 
Id use a source-four'ed joker 800. I'd be worried that lighting it from the tow boat will make it too flat and dull though....
 
Dave Weber said:
Seems like the problem here is budget. Obviously with more money you could trick out the boat with lights to cover.

Good Luck!
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I have around 250 dollers in budget for lights, have a powerfull diesle generator also. what could i trick out the boat with on that?
 
Ask David Mullen! If he can't solve it, it can't be done!

Good shooting and best regards,

Leo
 
Just a few other thoughts: It's dark. You're on the water. You're using electricity. You probably don't have an expert crew.

I implore you to reconsider and shoot this day for night.

Good shooting and best regards,

Leo
 
Leo Ticheli said:
Just a few other thoughts: It's dark. You're on the water. You're using electricity. You probably don't have an expert crew.

I implore you to reconsider and shoot this day for night.
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To support Leo's view and to give a practical idea, this shot was lit with all the lights of a car which was 15m/45feet away from the owl, Red One, ISO 2000, f2.8, shutter speed 1/25s.
 

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