I'm new to the forum - RED ONE

[Karel Šimůnek]

Hello everybody.
I'm new to this forum so I want to say hello to everyone here. But that's not all.
I want to ask you about RED ONE. I want to buy this camera. I found it on for example on ebay for 5 000 dollars or something like that.
But I guess it's only the brain of the camera. No SSD, no lens, no nothing.

So here's the question. How much will cost other stuff the camera starts to shoot?

Thanks you so much for you answer. And sorry for my english.

 

[Patrick Tresch]

Wellcome to RU (Reduser) Karel!

I would go with a Ebay RED ONE if it's ready to shoot in a package. Easier to test it out if everything works ok.

Pat

 

[Manfred Lopez]

Welcome. You can also check out the market place here. There always seems to be a red one package being offered. I agree that you should try to buy a complete system.

 

[Karel Šimůnek]

Thank you to both of you for your valuable advice.
I am going to check RU's market place and I'll see.

And one more thing. Do you think/know if the new Hexa core Mac Pro handle editing 4K footage from RED?
All my life I was MS Windows guy. But friend of mine showed me how Apple works and from that moment I'm in love with Apple OS.

Thanks guys

 

[Brian Merlen]

with red one you should be fine on a hex core mac pro trash can (what programs are you utilizing and are you upgrading the gpus?).

but something to keep in mind is, you can get a red rocket to use with a red one and set up a mobile system instead (for perhaps less if its based on TB1, you may already have a machine that would work). also unless you need full res or half res playback you can get by with an even more dated machine and no rocket at all. part of this comes down to what kind of shooting it is, short takes vs long..what codec your encoding to, are you editing r3d files natively or doing an offline reconform instead. lots of the workflow specifics dictate hardware requirements

another thing is red is optimizing their SDK shortly and all of a sudden GPU will help with debayering, so the workflow is still in the process of getting optimized, you may not need a 6 core in the future after all...just something to consider. people get by quite fine on retina macbook pros prior to the mac pro trash can debut, it works for basic media management, dailies via rocket, stuff like that with a smaller footprint

 

[ericyoung]

If you have the choice, go for a Red One MX rather than Red One M.

Red One M is still a very fine camera, but MX copes with low light better.

M=Mysterium (the original older sensor)
MX=Mysterium-X (the later sensor)

 

[Karel Šimůnek]

with red one you should be fine on a hex core mac pro trash can (what programs are you utilizing and are you upgrading the gpus?).

but something to keep in mind is, you can get a red rocket to use with a red one and set up a mobile system instead (for perhaps less if its based on TB1, you may already have a machine that would work). also unless you need full res or half res playback you can get by with an even more dated machine and no rocket at all. part of this comes down to what kind of shooting it is, short takes vs long..what codec your encoding to, are you editing r3d files natively or doing an offline reconform instead. lots of the workflow specifics dictate hardware requirements

another thing is red is optimizing their SDK shortly and all of a sudden GPU will help with debayering, so the workflow is still in the process of getting optimized, you may not need a 6 core in the future after all...just something to consider. people get by quite fine on retina macbook pros prior to the mac pro trash can debut, it works for basic media management, dailies via rocket, stuff like that with a smaller footprint

Thank you very much for the answer.

I want to use Adobe programs, Premiere CC, After Affects etc.
I heared DaVinci Resolve is pretty good but I don't know anything about it yet.

Yes. Macbook Pro Retina. I was looking to it as well. But in editing I prefer normal computer with LCD screen. I don't know why, but editing on larger screen is better for me than on "small" notebook. I want to edit natively r3d files not offline. What are you using for editing? Or what's your r3d workfow?

Thanks

 

[Karel Šimůnek]

If you have the choice, go for a Red One MX rather than Red One M.

Red One M is still a very fine camera, but MX copes with low light better.

M=Mysterium (the original older sensor)
MX=Mysterium-X (the later sensor)

Thank you for the tip.
Long way is waiting for me to learn the whole process with RED. I know.

 

[Tommy Davis]

Hi Karel, I was recently in the same boat as you and here is a link to some valuable information from NoFilmSchool http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/red-one-scarlet-epic-accessories-what-you-need/

The article covers costs for building packages for the Epic to the Scarlet and then the Red One and is still fairly accurate to date. I wish you luck, I absolutely love my transition to Red though it took me about 5 months to build a working package. Budget and planning is key.

 

[Stuart McQuade]

So here's the question. How much will cost other stuff the camera starts to shoot?

This all depends on where you will shoot, and which lenses you'll use. If you will only shoot indoors (for example, in a studio where you can use a power supply) then you've just saved many hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars on a charger and multiple batteries. But if you intend to shoot outside (which I suspect you will), then you'll need a battery plate, battery charger and multiple batteries. You could always hire batteries and a charger, but you'd need to buy a battery adapter plate at the least. Either way, you're probably looking at a minimum of 1500USD for two batteries, charger and a battery plate.

If you'll use PL lenses, then you can rent or buy them. If you'll use some other type, then you'll need to buy a mount. Nikon mounts are available from about $400 upwards (second-hand) and leitax.com do a very sensibly priced Canon mount (roughly 600EUR).

You'll then need a viewfinder or a monitor. Again, anything from a cheap HDMI monitor, right up to quality monitors/viewfinders costing thousands. There have been a few cheap RED evfs kicking around this forum lately - that's how I bought mine.

You then have to mount the camera unless you intend to hold it in your hand... So, tripod or shoulder rig - or both. Anything from xxxUSD to XXXXUSD.

Then start thinking about matteboxes, filters, possibly a second monitor for a focus puller.... the list goes on (and on...)

Speaking as someone who recently bought a R1MX body, I would agree with the other guys who've recommended you buy a shooting package - or at least have enough finances up front to buy the body and your needed accessories at once. I bought my body and then bought accessories when I could afford them - suffice to say I got the camera to some sort of shooting capability two months after I bought it.

So to put things in perspective: don't be surprised if you end up spending the same amount of money on accessories as you do on a camera body.