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I'm breaking up with RED

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@Harrison - I hope you get yours soon! That's certainly a long time to wait, really feel for you.

@Sergio - thanks for the advice, hopefully you're right!

@Scott - This is the complaints forum, after all. And most people are offering great advice, solutions, and helping me keep my head up in a time of great financial burden, and difficult decisions. I offered my previous work as a compliment to Red, and to show my loyalty and familiarity with the product. There is no need for your attitude, and no one is forcing you to read this thread.
 
We've all got our difficulties, and anyone who is still here following along, reading this stuff has also been waiting. That there is plenty of reason for the attitude. You go on ahead and complain all you want, just don't expect a lot of sympathy. The guys who are showing you some have a lot of heart. Good on 'em. Maybe mine is two sizes too small.

Matthew, in 1,000 posts I have never shown this kind of hostility, not that I'm asking for your forgiveness. I simply have no more patience for whining drivel. You might show me a fraction of the patience that you and Andrew seem to be asking of the rest of us.
 
Scott Crawley said:
We've all got our difficulties, and anyone who is still here following along, reading this stuff has also been waiting. That there is plenty of reason for the attitude. You go on ahead and complain all you want, just don't expect a lot of sympathy. The guys who are showing you some have a lot of heart. Good on 'em. Maybe mine is two sizes too small.

Matthew, in 1,000 posts I have never shown this kind of hostility, not that I'm asking for your forgiveness. I simply have no more patience for whining drivel. You might show me a fraction of the patience that you and Andrew seem to be asking of the rest of us.
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Sure, especially when you refer to a complaint in the complaints department as "whining drivel", I'll give you a fraction. Cheers.
 
Matthew Scott said:
Sure, especially when you refer to a complaint in the complaints department as "whining drivel", I'll give you a fraction. Cheers.
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Oh I never said the complaint is in the wrong place, it just has no merit. Cheers to you.
 
Guys, let's chill on this one. It sounds like Andrew is considering his options, some of which are still RED. Maybe the title of the post should have been - Should I break up with RED? We all get furstrated at times in life. In general I am a patient person, but waiting for gear is one of those things that I am a bit impatient about. Fortunately, B&H Photo ships stuff UPS ground to me the next day, so I get spoiled.

I think if Andrew hangs in there, he'll forget all about the wait once the camera ships to him. He'll be too busy shooting to worry about it at that point. And that's a good thing.
 
I'll admit, waiting for Stage III has got me down, and I'm wondering about jumping ship also, but wont a RED ONE MX shoot images as well as a Scarlet?
 
Andrew, Chances are you will receive your camera within the next four weeks, maybe sooner. Don't compromise project after project on a lesser camera. I couldn't imagine going to an F3 or something after shooting Red. Couldn't do it.

As for spending $12k on rentals while waiting, I assume you mean since November as you refer to waiting for the Scarlet, and since you knew you wouldn't receive it before December no matter what, you must mean the last 6 weeks. You probably could have bought a second hand R1 for about that much then resold it for $11k when your Scarlet arrives. We all knew it would take some time to get these out the door and you have to do some planning ahead of time.

My Scarlet arrived a few days ago, and is a perfect sibling to my Epic X, which arrived 3 months ago. Happy days!
 
@Steve I can't agree more, I hope all this is put behind me with great and fulfilling work. And I'd sure love it to be a Red. The idea of buying and selling an Red One MX hadn't occurred to me until I posted (which the whole thing was meant to be slightly funny, but honest expression of how I'm feeling waiting in blind faith for something).

@Jim after spending the day trying to build packages that could potentially match up, I know exactly what you mean. Totally felt myself settling in different ways with each option. I do really want it, but at the same time I'm a believer that the tools are only a means to the end, and it's difficult to make anything without tools at all.
 
dude. spend a few hundred on a dslr and make-do until it comes and save yourself a lot of impatience. i don't recommend giving up at this point - it's the final stretch. occupy yourself with something more important and fulfilling - accept the fact that you may have to make some temporary decisions for the next month or two and forget all the worrying about it.
 
That is too bad.

You sound very busy with a lot of rental work.

By now you would probably have an EPIC M paid off.

You would have had it three days after ordering it.

Bummer.

I hope you do really well with the camera you eventually choose.


David
 
isn't it also true that any of the current crop of competing cameras have an exorbitant wait time? Is the c300 even available yet for purchase? I think B&H is taking orders but I don't know about delivery...
 
Andrew Droz Palermo said:
I make a living - that is, pay my bills and feed myself - using their equipment. Through all the hiccups, I still wanted to continue to. But I'm left with little choice at this point.
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With what my friend ?
Camera rental or filmmaking ?

jimhare said:
Don't compromise project after project on a lesser camera.
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Because, with all due respect: it's not the camera making your project, it's you and your script.
 
I can feel a big part of the frustration is the BS that red has thrown around and still not straitened out. Jim made a bold statement before N3, he said announce and ship, no BS, i believe somewhere he even said something about abundant stock but i could be mistaken/don't recall

then N3 comes around and boom, instant waiting list. no eta, no nothing, i feel your pain OP, i was interested in the cam as well until i saw that the typical antics were still there.

they seem to have no management, i mean comon, no predictions at all from their production line? how hard is it to tell your customers how many cameras are produced per day, and how many orders are there?

i think there answer is obvious: they don't want people running away when they hear that the wait time is months. smart tactic for sales? yes. piss off your customers at the same time? yup. do they care? i've no idea, i've never dealt with them.
 
You have to wonder what makes someone an expert on RED who has been here less than a month, posted twice, and has "never dealt with them." And the bigger question is - why do they even care? :ciappa:
 
surely Andrew you would be far better off with a Red MX than a scarlet anyway if you are wanting to shoot a feature.
Why wait, You could have a full feature package all ready to go.
last month I finished a 54 day shoot on a feature film with my 2 Red MX's and everyone is over the moon with the footage, do not think the scarlet would have done any better.
 
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