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Ikonoscope A-cam dII

I agree. They market the camera as a portable, small solution...but how are you going to get hundreds, maybe even thousands of GBs of data to a laptop if you're on the road shooting? Some compression is a good idea, as an option at least.
 
Has anyone used their S16 camera?

If so, how are they as a company to deal with?

It all looks interesting, but also a strange looking camera. Maybe it's just the photos that are available that make it look strange.
 
Wow, nice! $10,000 including 80gb drive & batt & f1.6 lens... good stuff. Be better if it were $6000 ;)

Post workflow would be good. For people complaining about disk space requirements:

Since DNG is an open standard, Cineform (and others) should be able to make a lightning-fast converter for it.

So buy 4 or 5 cards and have a cheap PC laptop or tablet converting to cineform RAW on set, solving your disk space problems.

If Ikonoskop is smart they'll have an easy way to download from that card via eSATA. So you can go at 240MB/s. Faster than realtime if you shoot < 60fps.

$10,000 is too rich for my blood but it'd be great fun to rent and shoot with.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
stevesherrick said:
Has anyone used their S16 camera?

If so, how are they as a company to deal with?

It all looks interesting, but also a strange looking camera. Maybe it's just the photos that are available that make it look strange.
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Yes, the s16 cam is a very strange and neat little camera. Lots of cool features, very small, a little flimsy feeling, weird loading system, but the real bummer is that it's non reflex. So you have to use little viewfinders to frame with. It's a great skate cam, or helmet cam.
 
Wow! The sensor is bigger than EX3. It takes 35 mm and 16 mm lenses among others. Nice ergonomic view finder. light weight. $9000. The post workflow is all standard. No hassles. All your dreams come true.
To get a similar RED set up, you will need to spend upwards of $50K.
 
What's the post workflow again?
Motion dng is not a standard yet, right?
 
ThydNostrum said:
Wow! The sensor is bigger than EX3. It takes 35 mm and 16 mm lenses among others. Nice ergonomic view finder. light weight. $9000. The post workflow is all standard. No hassles. All your dreams come true.
To get a similar RED set up, you will need to spend upwards of $50K.
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ok???

Looks good, but I cannot really see that last sentence from the images...

Body/CF module: 18
EVF: 3
10 CF cards: 2 (40minutes of recording...)
Lens on eBay: 3

That's 25k
and then?
What makes up for the next 25?
And the workflow is good I guess, but I basically see the same hassles.

Not to diminish the offer, but that didn't make sense...
 
gunleik said:
ok???
Body/CF module: 18
EVF: 3
10 CF cards: 2 (40minutes of recording...)
Lens on eBay: 3
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line by line comparable would be:
Body/CF module: 18
EVF: 3
2 CF cards: .4 (12minutes of 4k recording...)
Nikon mount: .5
Lens on eBay: .2

~$22k
 
What's up with the usb 2.0 for data offloading?
 
"freeish" uncompressed workflow...

"freeish" uncompressed workflow...

Ariana said:
What's the post workflow again?
Motion dng is not a standard yet, right?
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>>Note, Some tasks or programs used require Windows ME (tm) or Windows XP Home SP3 (tm) with the FreeDOS FAT32 (tm) disk mounted as a slave drive. Things may work better if all disks are formatted FAT32, which should work up to 2TB per disk.<<

For those who have not noticed, I will mention that my 0K to 6K+ "freeish" uncompressed workflow is now for Download with full 16bit TIF import and export.

I have been testing it with 16 bit RGB TIF files made from R3D files by REDCINE (tm), so if the ACAM dII can make numbered TIF frame files also it should be possable to edit uncompressed in its 1920x1080 resolution right now, like this minute.

I am still making changes to my system, but it seems to be working this week, I have been doing CC from 4K down to 1600x1200 for some film out tests using a 1600x1200 LCD monitor and my DANCINEL.EXE (tm) film recorder program, I should have some exposure info in a month or so.

I think VirtualDub (tm) will make 1920x1080p AVI, so my system can output a set of frame files color corrected and letter boxed if needed to VirtualDub (tm) along with the WAV sound mix, and that should get you an uncompressed AVI that you can do anything you want with...

If you want to filmout using a standard film recorder, my system can upres the 1080p to 2K resolution and output 16bit TIF files with CC etc.

More info in my other posts... You can PM me if you want to try it with frames converted from R3D or video files using VirtualDub (tm) or some other video frame de-compiler. We mostly use 35mm film scans, but are looking into Digital Cinema cameras, you can mix both in the same project if you like. My system auto resizes the images, but I need a little more work on down-res of more than 100% but you can fuzz the frames with the filter before for now, up-res should work well.
 
Tar said:
IMO there's still a big difference between $24k and $9k...about $15k or 260% meaning you could buy a little more than 2 and-a-half DIIs than a RED one...
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Is this 16mm camera pixel-for-pixel Bayer? or downsampled to 1080p?
 
I didn't dispute that RED costs more, I just disputed the 50k$ comparison... :)

I could on the other hand go into s35 sensors and CF cards... but I won't
 
looks beautiful, proud of my swedish origin

did anybody see what kind of RAW that is, does RAW imply a CMOS sensor, how will that resolution compare to a compressed 3K or 4K, taking the anti alias into consideration,

real world tests will be very interesting to see soon enough
 
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