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I know I shouldn't be allowed to buy this camera, but I will

Hi Jack and Red Rookies,
I'd definitly go with buying the short Red package as suggested
in earlier posts.
The Red camera will not teach you how to light, about film grammer,
and how to manipulate dynamic range.
A good film school will do all this and more. It will also give you
the oportunity to meet others your age with similar interests
and start creative partnerships. VERY important.
Potential Directors & Producers.
You may also be able to rent your camera to the school and be
the GUY with the high rez camera.
So hold off on purchasing the "works" and spend some bucks on
education, even a good intensive series of short courses will help.
To be sucessful in this industry you have to have something "special".
You have to learn how to be special and gain a REAL talent for
digital/film cinematography.
The principals are the same for both.
Sorry to come off a little strong.
Cheers Mezmo
 
To be honest, I also think this camera is a bit overkill for someone without experience... Why don't you first buy a HDV camera, a good one, and learn with that?

And to be very crude, it's your life of course, but... spending 70K without your wife knowing it?
You don't need a RED camera for your movie, you need to know how to tell your story. And yes, doing that with one of the maybe finest images possible from a digital camera (RED) is everyone's dream here, but really...
70.000 dollars... You can always learn and hire the camera.
Or maybe even buy a RED but with a basic package.
One of the reasons I'm also saying this is because I've seen many films on the internet from people raving about their mini35 adapter (great tool in itself) but if you watch the movies, actor's are out of focus 90% of the time...
Maybe I'm being too harsh, and everybody should get the chance to learn, even with 35 mm Depth of Field.

Now, you obviously already made your choice, so I really wish you the best with it, the camera is without a doubt one of the best digital camera's out there. I also wish you the best with your wife :biggrin:

But be sure also to have budget for actor's, lightening, crew, support for your camera, postproduction,...
That's more important then the camera itself.

Sorry if that's not exactly the enthousiastic advice you were searching for, but that's my honest opinion: that 70k on a Digital Cinema 35mm Camera is a bit overkill for someone without experience...
 
film school

film school

i liken less expensive camcorders to a less expensive film school. if you've got the money, you should use it on what you see fit but you can't expect anything more from red than you can a cheap camera just like you can't expect to get more out of an expensive film school than out of a community college video 101 class. it's all about your story and your passion. some people (like me) are driven to write and shoot partly because of a fascination with the technology so it might be an excuse but i want and need red for my next feature. maybe that's you too?
 
zakaree said:
film school = the biggest waste of money and time (for me)
id much rather of learned myself on set...
thats my thoughts on that.
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Yes, went to film school for 6 months, then I quiet.
I agree, you can learn the most on your own, by experience and internet.
(Film school isn't as expensive in Belgium as it is in the USA)
Still, I stand by my original post.
 
http://www.hollywoodcamerawork.us/

I have to recommend this DVD set instead of film school. But please keep in mind that I have no experience either in film school or on a movie set.

When I create my storyboards I will start by copying camera blocking techniques, camera movements, and lighting of scenes from different movies. After awhile I should be able to create my own style, instead of just copying other styles.
 
Curran Giddens said:
http://www.hollywoodcamerawork.us/

I have to recommend this DVD set instead of film school. But please keep in mind that I have no experience either in film school or on a movie set.

When I create my storyboards I will start by copying camera blocking techniques, camera movements, and lighting of scenes from different movies. After awhile I should be able to create my own style, instead of just copying other styles.
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Advice taken. DVDs ordered. Thanks.
 
Hey Jack,

Here's another one from Rush over at DVXuser.

http://www.digitalcinemacourse.com/

I bought the Hollywood camerawork and the Digital Cinema Course, as a refresher from being out of film school for over ten years.

I have to say that I learned more from them than I did at school....in the academice sense. That said, the most is learned the day after film school ends, so these DVD's, lots of research, networking and lots of pracitice will get you on your way.

Just think. Camera gear, lights, production funds all for the cost of many film schools and all within a couple of years less. Just one way to do it.

Jason
 
always buy the most expensive equipment you can afford. for the most part, in video production, you get what you pay for (with the exception of RED, where you get way more than you pay for....). and don't buy any equipment that you can't afford.

two simple rules to live by, and you'll do fine.
 
explosive said:
How did you get into film and tv from nuclear physics btw?
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I attended a nurd convention at UT Austin. This was for the people
who had garnered a partial scholarship to attend UT to study
physics....I also took some film classes and after graduating found
some work in the film biz and never went after a physics career.
 
i have a film degree, no regrets - would do it over ... it was the non film required classes ( general education) that turned out to be more important in the long run ...

yes, you'll learn more about lighting, camera etc being on a film set BUT there's more to one's life/learning then just film ...
 
Curran Giddens said:
http://www.hollywoodcamerawork.us/

I have to recommend this DVD set instead of film school. But please keep in mind that I have no experience either in film school or on a movie set.

When I create my storyboards I will start by copying camera blocking techniques, camera movements, and lighting of scenes from different movies. After awhile I should be able to create my own style, instead of just copying other styles.
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I bought it and have been watching the first DVD. That piece of advice was invaluable! I honestly don't know how I would have obtained so much good information so easily. Many thanks!!
 
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