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I B C 2011 - My thoughts

Scott Brown

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Well it's the eve of the final day of IBC 2011 and I'm sitting here with a glass of vino reflecting on what I've seen over the past few days here in Amsterdam.

Thoughts - overall, disappointment this year. 3D everywhere but a lot of it was really not very impressive and I remain to be convinced that 3D is going to really take off in the broadcast arena. The BBC Wimbleton tennis demo was impressive though!

Sony - OLED displays were very nice. Finally I saw a grade 1 monitor that outperformed CRT...at a cost though! + they have a great little 9" production monitor that is a stunner. Still nothing to replace the EX1/3 work horses that are now almost 4 years old. All they need to do is add 50 M/bs capture and they will sell thousands....these cameras are still the best hand held units in the market but we need to use a Nano Flash or similar to keep the BBC happy. F3....nice pictures BUT 35 M/bs recording just can't get my head round this and I just know that Scarlet is going to completely kill this product. F65 was shown delivering lovely pictures BUT they are very late arriving at the 4K party and the camera is double the cost of Epic! At the other end of the scale, I really liked Sony's little NX70 AVCHD camera that is water and dust proof, shoots 50/60p and has a cute infra red night vision option. This will be a great camera for news gathering in hostile environments.

Panasonic - only big news on the camera front was the AG-HPX250 handheld camera that shoots 50 M/bs and thus should be approved by the BBC for HD acquisition. It is quite a big camera though and I was surprised at how fragile and plastic it was, however the lens is a cracker! Panny also have a new range of pro plasmas which are nice BUT the VT30 consumer range still offer best bang for buck. They had a stunning 150" 4K plasma on display and this truly is an object of desire...shame they didn't have any 4K RED footage to show on it :o)

Canon - nothing much doing. The XF305 camera is nice but the lens servo drove me nuts and it really is not a low light star. Cut the front end off though, add the 7D sensor and add RAW recording and they would have a camera that would potentially give RED some competition. Nothing doing on this front though I have to believe that Canon must be working on this!

There were LOTS of portable camera recorders from companies such as Atmos, Sound Devices, AJA etc. I don't quite understand these devices...they were born out of silly games played by Sony and Panasonic whereby they crippled data rates on lower priced cameras deliberately to protect higher cost cameras! I get sooooo frustrated at the games Sony and Panasonic play but companies like RED will continue to thrive while these games are played! Out of all the units I looked at, I liked the the Atmos units the best.

RED...small stand but it was always busy and everyone was amazed at the size of the Epic in comparison to the RED One. Ted was in great form and it was a joy to hold an Epic in my hands for the first time.

LOT's of copycat manufacturers from the Far East who have blatantly ripped off US and European manufacturers lighting products....Grrrrrrrrr.

In the post Apple FCP-X era Adobe and Avid were doing lots of business with Adobe's stand having the bigger crowds in my opinion. Looks like we'll ditch FCP 7 in favour of Avid for our TV work and Adobe for corporate and VFX. Black Magic Design had a big stand with lots of new product, however I feel their range is now getting too complicated and perhaps needs streamlining. BIG announcement was of course Resolve coming to the PC and they had a beta version on display that was 80% complete. Love this software and at the cost it is an obvious buy for all RED owners.

I'll post other thoughts once I have time to digest everything. Last day tomorrow so let me know of there is anything specifically that you'd like me to check out if you're unable to be here in person.

Best wishes

Scott
 
well done. thx scott
 
Yeah, thanks Scott, looking forward to hearing your scoop on the other little guys that are actually, "the competition." Out of respect for RED, I won't list them here, but check out the vimeo IBC video of the "JVC 4K," video where I name the 3 to four companies. I'm surprised that there has been little to no coverage on these guys even though they are at IBC, and besides RED, have the best alternative cameras. Ironically, they are all from Europe. Looks like there is real innovation happening in the digital motion picture field both in the U.S. and Europe. Thanks again Scott I will be waiting anxiously for your footage from the UNDERGROUND.
 
Hi Gabriel

The 4K JVC was interesting and I heard it was due to ship Q1 2012 - has four HDMI outputs and was shown on a prototype monitor that costs $50K. Camera will retail for around £6000 and I think it is using H.264 at around 140 M/bs.

BIG frustration remains 4K display...Sony have a $25K consumer projector coming but we need something at a lower cost to truly be practical.

Scott
 
Hi Scott. I didn't mean to talk about the 4k JVC like it was an actual contender. I actually think the unit is a complete joke and just JVC's first gimic of utilizing 4k, which does not necessarily indicate that the device will be filmish or rather a motion picture camera at all, just that its resolution resolved to a higher degree than the previous 1080p standard, but then again, that's what still picture cameras are for with their already high implemented RAW and high resolutions (but those things are not motion picture cams). I have my eyes set on the few small European companies that have 2k cameras up their sleeve either with CCDs or global shutters while utilizing raw instead of H.264. RED is still the leader and king and leading the way. I'm just appalled that these smaller European companies (there quite a few now with working cameras), are being ignored it seems by some of the big websites, not this one of course as it is sorely about RED and why I don't list the aforementioned camera companies, that are covering and posting footage of IBC. It's as if these websites that I have found myself going to over the years, could actually be "owned," by the bigger corps. I mean, why is C5d, Philip Bloom, etc., not reporting on these guys, but on cameras whose footage hardly resembles film at all but rather ENG cams that are getting in the way in innovations that RED and now a few others are actually attempting to make in digital motion picture acquisition. It all bewilders me so.
 
The JVC sure is interesting. However, the method of compression and storage seems clumsy. H.264 Level 5.1 has native support for 4K images. There could be some licensing issues - I am not really sure. Either way, recording four different files on four different cards (or four different HDMI outputs) can make things chaotic. The resolution seems over the top for a 1/2 inch sensor too, but let's wait and see how the camera and it's lenses perform. The first instinct would be a rehash of the megapixel wars in the still camera industry - trading resolution numbers for actual image quality. But I am sure JVC realizes the target market for this product isn't really swooned by numbers and marketing as much. Finally, Scarlet just seems more appealing.

Anyway, it is a step forward from 1080p. Between this and Scarlet the likes of Panasonic and Sony must come up with >1080p cameras by 2012.
 
Agreed, the little JVC 4K camera is not a contender in any way. It would never be accepted by a broadcaster for a start.

Gabriel, I'll have a look today for the companies you talked about as I must have missed these on my travels...maybe I was simply blinded by the "Epic" which we saw for the first time :o)

Haven't come across beko and vestel here in the UK Denizhan.

Best wishes

Scott
 
F3....nice pictures BUT 35 M/bs recording just can't get my head round this and I just know that Scarlet is going to completely kill this product.

How so, surely anyone wanting an F3 will want the s35 sensor?

Epic-S may well kill it, but that is a product we know little about.
 
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