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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

How to control RED from 3 miles away?

Yep it is the LRO/LCROSS mission. The Atlas V will be lanching in the 401 configuration... just fyi.

I'm waiting to hear what, if any, hookups / hardware there may be in the bunker.

Thanks for the videos.

The one that I came across

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t3I3Yk-GnE&feature=related

might be similar to what the client ultimately wants, but that is just a guess.

Matt
 
Try Supercircuits. They have long range video monitoring solutions, both wired and wireless, and probably they can figure out the gpio trigger from a distance thing as well.
 
ericyoung said:
I wonder if launch sound/vibrations may cause drive to skip? May want an Element Technica isolation mount?
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Or RED RAM now that it's shipping...

Why don't'cha ask google how it's been done. Rent a doubler for whatever longest lens you can. I can't remember which camera house in LA it is but one of them has an old Navy lens that's ENORMOUS, like 6ft long or longer.... You could set up anywhere in the safe zone and shoot without worry...
 
Monstercine have tested their remote start/stop up to 1,140 ft with no problem - they didn't test any further because they ran out of XLR cable.....I wouldn't fancy being the one coiling that all back up at the end of the day :blink:

3 miles is a crazy amount of cable though :ohmy:

http://205.234.135.241/forum/showthread.php?t=21711&highlight=monstercine

Happy launchings!!
 
If I actually had a RED in my possession to found these ideas on, that'd probably work better for you.

Get 2 cameras and set one to record and pray its in time to catch it. Get the second one to auto-record on powerup and have a 3 mile extension cord?

But seriously. This question raises another question. Is there any way to record straight to a computer hard drive. If so, i'd suggest putting the PC in the bunker with the camera. Record directly to the hard drive.

Worse case scenario wipes out your camera and PC but both are insured so, why not.

-Brian
 
If there is cellphone reception at the bunker, something based around that certainly would seem to be the easiest solution.
 
Shawn Booth said:
Or RED RAM now that it's shipping...

Why don't'cha ask google how it's been done. Rent a doubler for whatever longest lens you can. I can't remember which camera house in LA it is but one of them has an old Navy lens that's ENORMOUS, like 6ft long or longer.... You could set up anywhere in the safe zone and shoot without worry...
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Hey Shawn,

We are planning on having a HD camera at the viewing sight three miles away. The reason that we need the RED so close is that there are trees and such blocking the majority of the pad and rocket.

We are also using a wide angle lens somthing like this picture, just not as close.
 
weirdcrew said:
Monstercine makes one that uses XLR cable for the remote on/off
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Fredrik,

I like that remote, very cool. I may have to pick one up, but I don't think they make one with a three mile cable.

I'm also not sure if we can even run cable to the viewing area due to the swamps and wetlands.

Thanks though for the link.

Matt
 
Douglas Underdahl said:
Try Supercircuits. They have long range video monitoring solutions, both wired and wireless, and probably they can figure out the gpio trigger from a distance thing as well.
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Douglas,

Thanks for the link, looks interesting. We are still waiting on NASA / Ames to let us know what, if any, type of wireless signal we can transmit around the launch pad.

And I have to say they have some really cool looking gadgets in their product line.

Matt
 
cell phone remote control

cell phone remote control

There is a box available - you pop in a gsm sim card and the box has logic inputs for monitoring and relay outputs for turning things on and off check their web site out -http://murtonsys.com/gsm/index.htm
 
A Rocket Odysey

A Rocket Odysey

The cheapest way of getting a 'message' to the bunker might well be a cellphone. All you then need to do is get an electronics technician to make you a black box containing a microphone that will trigger the camera when the 'phone rings (a more 'techno' solution could involve a direct electrical connection to the phone, thus avoiding the potential for false triggering of the camera due to ambient noise).
 
mmascheri said:
Fredrik,

I like that remote, very cool. I may have to pick one up, but I don't think they make one with a three mile cable.
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It uses multiple lengths of standard XLR cable (like the sound guys use, you can get it pretty much anywhere (consider the amount of cabling you'd need for a large concert (maybe not 3 miles though!?) - you might possibly need some repeaters or something?)

Maybe if you contacted Monstercine direct I'm sure they'd be into helping you out and giving advice...they're very helpful indeed, especially if it's something as cool as a rocket launch! Anything else seems a bit of an unknown quantity (e.g. how many times have you lost mobile phone reception...especially in the middle of nowhere...and you've only got one shot at this! No pressure :sarcasm:)

Good luck!
 
Simple way is to use a Vivotek VS 7100 video server box.
http://salestores.com/vivote01.html

That take a video signal and make it web cam. It also have one analog hi-lo pin. In that way you can see the out put of the cam and trigger the rec on the cam.

All you need is a normal ethernet data jack, and I hope nasa can fix that for you.
You probobly nedd to run the stuff on 110v, or from a 12V car battery.

And you also need a SDI to analog converter box.
 
Here is a viable off the shelf control over fiber option. For 3 miles you need 1310NM single mode, 2 fibers for bi-directional. You would need GPIO interface cables and start/stop buttons. If they have fiber available in the bunker this would be the most reliable way.

http://www.evertz.com/products/7707DT

Evertz also has analog, SD, and HD-SDI video links for fiber too. This stuff is specifically made for long distance command and control environments.
 
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