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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

How does one handle "Scarlet" footage?

Hackintosh's are crap. Don't waste your time with them, you will never get it running 100% and if your using it for intensive editing your going to have issues.

A decent Mac can pay for itself on 1 job easy so why #ick around with your post prod tools.
 
I say use what works best for you. Most NLEs have essentially the same features and the final output files are the same. The fastest rendering I’ve seen is with Edius. It is mighty quick. Vegas I think is great. Easy to learn and with plenty of features. And the output well, you wouldn’t notice any difference from others. If you feel Final Cut gives you extra powers that’s fine, as long as it keeps you happy while you work.
 
RicanJoe said:
That would be interesting, but unlikely. It would probably be made out of aluminum, carbon fiber and steel with a black and red paint job and weigh just under 100 pounds.
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Yeah, it was a joke meant to point out the absurdity of asking for a Red NLE. What's the point of Red entering into markets where margins are already low and competition is high?
 
Hi. I have a 24 inch iMac

these are the Specs

2.8GHz Intel Core 2 Extreme
4GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM - 2x2GB
500GB Serial ATA Drive
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO with 256MB memory
24-inch glossy widescreen LCD
AirPort Extreme
Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR

will I be able to edit 2K footage from the Scarlet without too much hassle?

also I'll be getting a macbook pro:

2.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
4GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM - 2x2GB
200GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200 rpm
MacBook Pro 17-inch Hi-Resolution LED Widescreen Display

Will that suffice for on set editing?

I can't really afford MAC PRO at the moment, as I'd rather order 2 Scarlets
 
Current Red One owners shed some light for Ameer and the rest of us please.
 
HD Bubaloo said:
People exagerate about Mac's costs. $4,000 ? Give me a break. Fact is you can run FCP Studio 2 (color bogs) on a minimac with 2GB of ram for around $600.00 and Build a firewire 800 raid of 1TB for $340. FCP Studio 2 for $1,145, Toss in a monitor and keyboard and mouse for another $350 and your looking at a complete system for under $2500 and for $300 more run XP Pro as a second os on VMWARE.

What PC and what Software can you do that for running XP?
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If you insist on comparing costs…here is a pc I built for myself:
- Intel® Workstation Board S5000XVN - $500
- Dual Xeon quad core 2.66GHz CPU's - $1200
- 4GB 533MHz DDR2 ECC Fully Buffered CL4 DIMM - $222
- Intel® Server Chassis - $200
- Seagate 1TB SATA 7200 - $240
All comes to $2362

The radeon HD 2600 XT that comes standard with Mac pro's 8 core systems retails at $160
So that addition would come up to $2522 (compared to the equivalent Mac Pro $3299 8 core equivalent)

I on the other hand bought an NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 for $1500 to complete my station as I needed it....but it is not necessary to have this kind of a beast.

It also important to say that my motherboard is easily upgradable to 32GB which would cost me about $2500 whereas in Mac it would cost $8600.

I agree, it is laboring to built it by yourself but it is well worth it. If you don’t know how to build them, either learn from a friend who does…it really isn’t that hard to learn, or get it built by a local privately own computer store.
Although I’m a PC man myself I sometimes work and enjoy Mac’s at the lab in my research facility. I agree that they do have beautiful products. As it was discussed before, now days under the hood they are virtually the same products.

I am certain the RED Team will make it quite easy to work with the scarlet on a PC as well as on a Mac. After all, the PC market is huge and as a company that needs to render substantial revenue they will not overlook that.

Kind Regards
 
We need lots of knowledge on this subject, about 20 million of us and counting. By the way Ameer did you hear the waiting list opened for the Scarlet and 19,999,999 sent in their deposits already? :)
 
John Caballero said:
We need lots of knowledge on this subject, about 20 million of us and counting. By the way Ameer did you hear the waiting list opened for the Scarlet and 19,999,999 sent in their deposits already? :)
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see, with you John, I'm never sure if you are joking or not.

let's see, I really doubt that 19,999,999 have sent in deposits, considering that that is the population of England, (and I'm sure if 19,999,999 did send in deposits, then we could start our own nation somewhere near Florida)
 
Hurry and send your money and you will be the 20th million citizen of that mythical country! :w00t:
 
aidenvfx said:
Same way things are done now with Red Code raw. However Apple anounced that color will now be able to handle r3d files now if only it could handle 3k resolution.

So tools will be

Red alert
Red Cine
Crimson (will be popular for Scarlet as most people who are using scarlet will not be buying Scratch)
FCP
Colour
Other 3 party apps not out yet I know there are a few more in the works
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In a video interview on FreshDV, the interviewer asks Ted Schilowitz "Will this be a RAW workflow similar to Red -- you'll go through Red Cine, same type workflow?" Schilowitz responds, "Different tools -- we're going to develop different tools and different ways to work, but they're all in the same vein as what we're doing now." From this I deduce that workflow will be similar but tailored specifically to Scarlet.
 
DSNR: You left out a couple of costs that may prevent you from editing.

1) the operating system
2) a power supply
3) your editing software.

Add those to your $2522.00

Also why bother comparing your quad core to an octo core mac? Your not talking XP's to apples.

Ameer: While you may not do a 2k workflow with an imac since you cannot though in a Kona 3 card, you can do an offline edit using DVCPRO HD or (Prorez 422 with IO HD) and do an online or relink on a higher end system.
 
HD Bubaloo, You must have overlooked somethings:

- The server chassis comes with a 600W pfc power supply.

- My system has Two (2) processors...both are quad core which makes it 8 core...just like the Mac pro...

- I bought a 64bit XP OEM for $10, a price the university pays. But others can get OEM CD for about $150 (I apologies, I forgot to add the operating system, but even with that addition the PC system is still cheaper)

- I don’t think the Mac pro comes with an editing software either. You will have to purchase on either systems an editing software...I was comparing the systems wasn’t I?
 
Your right I overlooked it because you didn't mention it.

My appologies, most of us in the real world get XP for $10.00 as well.

the quote I gave that added up to $2500 or so included Final Cut Studio 2. That includes Color, Motion, FCP 6, LiveType, Soundtrack Pro, Qmaster, Compressor, and DVD Studio Pro.

What will the software you buy add up to, to equal the same capabilities?
Avid Media Composer Mojo DX at $9k ? Oh wait that doesn't include any motion compositing or particle effects software or color grading.

You have convinced me. Building a PC is the way to go. I will have to inform my customers that they should dump there FCP/AJA suites and go home brew for their clients needs.
 
I forgot, Students know everything (even though most of us graduated over a decade and a half ago or more ourselves)

DNSR, I have learned a lot from your positive DIY outlook on post production solutions. Let me know how that works out for you.
 
HD Bubaloo said:
I forgot, Students know everything (even though most of us graduated over a decade and a half ago or more ourselves)

DNSR, I have learned a lot from your positive DIY outlook on post production solutions. Let me know how that works out for you.
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PWNED!
 
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