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How does one handle "Scarlet" footage?

I am also a Vegas user and ideally would want to stick with it (ideally the next big upgrade will increase resolution).

I think its a shame that RED are so Apple biased.
 
What some people may not know is that when you open up a PC and Mac their guts are basically identical. Motherboard, processors, ram, video cards, hard drives Cd and DVD drives, etc, etc, etc, etc. Those items inside both of them might even come from the same factory. The same goes within the PC brands themselves. They all use the same technology inside no matter which brand name.
Since about 1998 I started putting together my own computers and I can tell you that to me it makes all the difference in the world. I can upgrade them as I wish, fix them if something goes wrong and get a great sense of achievement when I see them doing what they are supposed to do, be it word processing, photo work or video editing. I get my parts from the computer fairs at York College in Jamaica, Queens or the Ramada Inn one at JFK. I can get the latest there at less cost than anywhere else. Creating my own computers, (I have four at the moment), and taking care of them is an exciting extension of the creative satisfaction I get from the professional photography and video work I do.

That's the good thing about PCs.

You can put together a fairly cheap PC with a good RAID for much less than a Mac.

I'm not a windows fan, I'm a PC fan.
I just wonder when Apple is going to release a Mac OS for PC.

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If anyone watched the FreshDV interview with Ted here is what was said about Scarlet workflow:

FreshDV Guy - Will this be a raw workflow similar to Red, you'll go through RedCine, same type workflow...

Ted - Different tools, we'll develop different tools and uh different ways to work, but they're all in the same vein (vane?) of what we're doing now.

I bet they simplify Scarlet's software to make it more idiot proof. This is a $3,000 camera that many people will have access to and therefore they need to make the workflow a bit easier than that of the RedOne for the novices. Before someone freaks out, I'm not saying everyone who buys Scarlet is a novice, but I'm sure there will be a few who do and Red doesn't want to answer 10,000 questions about the software.
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I'm hoping Avid will be able to handle Scarlet footage.
 
You can install Mac OS on a PC by using a hack.
There are alot of tutorials on how to do this.
A few years ago it was not possible since Macs used different CPUs but now they use Intel CPUs .
 
I am also a Vegas user and ideally would want to stick with it (ideally the next big upgrade will increase resolution).

I think its a shame that RED are so Apple biased.

When Red was first in development they contacted several companies only Apple returned the call. (That is what Jim has stated)

With that said the 3 leadings NLE are FCP, AVID, and Adobe Premier. There will be lots of choice out there but expect most of the advancements to be made on the AVID or adobe system and not Vegas for the time being. I expect that as Scarlet grows some smart Vegas users will create tools for it.
 
all the people who want to use SONY vegas for any kind of RED workflow are being kind of silly. SONY will never support RED in a way that won't be a total compromise to the user.
 
Although many people oppose this idea I suggest that Red developed its own NLE to fully support their RAW workflow. Why not? They are already developing Red Alert and Redcine. They could take it a step further and go for the whole thing. I think it would be great to have an all Red digital cine universe.
Sony Vegas fully supports all the Sony cameras output.
 
Although many people oppose this idea I suggest that Red developed its own NLE to fully support their RAW workflow. Why not? They are already developing Red Alert and Redcine. They could take it a step further and go for the whole thing. I think it would be great to have an all Red digital cine universe.
Sony Vegas fully supports all the Sony cameras output.

NOPE! I disagree like the others. Improve the one you do have, don't make another fit for Beta and problems.

Just wait for FCS to drop 50% of their price just like all of their other Pro Apps.

Also does the Scarlet have the same output that Sony Cameras do?
 
“Improve the one you do have”? What does that mean? Who has it? You, Sony, Apple, Red? If Red can put together a breakthrough camera and Redcine and Red Alert to handle its output an NLE should be a breeze for them. Of course it would really hurt Apple and the others but that’s business.
 
“Improve the one you do have”? What does that mean? Who has it? You, Sony, Apple, Red? If Red can put together a breakthrough camera and Redcine and Red Alert to handle its output an NLE should be a breeze for them. Of course it would really hurt Apple and the others but that’s business.

Jim is hurting Sony because that is what they deserve.

Being as Apple is the ONLY one who called Jim back, why would you want to hurt Apple?

I don't see where you are coming from!?!?!
 
Oh boy.....
It has nothing to do with hurting anybody. First thing people have to make clear in their heads is that Red is not hurting Sony, Panasonic or any of the top guys out there at this particular moment. Red is a newcomer to the business of making digital cinema cameras and they will suffer a lot of growing pains. That is the very nature of start-ups. People with experience in starting and developing a new business know this very well. Their stuff is very impressive and the technology is amazing but at the moment there is a lot of struggle to produce. They will take a long while to solidly establish their products. Again, let me repeat it: they are not hurting anybody out there.
I am rooting for them all the way. I would love to have a Scarlet sitting right in front of me right now, but I realize that at this moment is only a dream.
Final Cut might be now the NLE working the closest with Red, but believe me, after a while it won't be the only one. Premiere, Edius, Avid, Vegas and others are as important to this business as Final Cut. I know is hard to acknowledge, but there are many professionals doing their editing work on PCs. A Red NLE would be a perfect tool for a Red workflow because their focus would be exclusively with that. No Sony, P2 or anything else. All power concentrated on the Red workflow.
But, it really doesn’t matter to me; I will continue happily doing my work right now with what I have in front of me. I’ll worry about Raw next year.
 
Red should build their own computers too that only work with Red software and Red footage. :whistling:
 
All computers are built with the same components, no matter what brand. Red should go into that business first!
 
Red should build their own computers too that only work with Red software and Red footage. :whistling:
That would be interesting, but unlikely. It would probably be made out of aluminum, carbon fiber and steel with a black and red paint job and weigh just under 100 pounds.
 
Use a professional NLE and you will have some sort of Red compatibility. Vegas is not and has never been considered professional. Its a consumer editing software package.

As Aidenvfx stated, Apple was onboard from the beginning, as was AJA.

Fact is, if you are going to release anything Audio/video related your going to be smart and make it work on Apple first since 90% of the creative community uses mac.

Jim said they are working on PC solutions. Until then, I invite you over to the DarkSide. (apple)
 
People exagerate about Mac's costs. $4,000 ? Give me a break. Fact is you can run FCP Studio 2 (color bogs) on a minimac with 2GB of ram for around $600.00 and Build a firewire 800 raid of 1TB for $340. FCP Studio 2 for $1,145, Toss in a monitor and keyboard and mouse for another $350 and your looking at a complete system for under $2500 and for $300 more run XP Pro as a second os on VMWARE.

What PC and what Software can you do that for running XP?
 
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