Holy Snikeies Adobe!!!!!!!

[Russ McDonald]

The paradigm has again shifted. I was again privileged to be in the front row as it were, at the last LA User Group this past weekend. Kevan O'Brien gave us a sneak peek of the Red Work flow for Premiere, and (can you hear the choir of angels) After Effects.

Kiss proxies good by. You are only limited by your processor power. You client is going to ask you. "Can I see that keyed, I want to see that shot with the composited background" You'll will say with a grin, "Sure what resolution do you want to see it in." Or he/she will ask, "Can you take a frame grab, and let me play with it in Photoshop, I want to play with a few looks." You will again smile and say, "Don't forget to save the file as a PSD, then will open that up in After Effects, copy the adjustment curves you like, and apply it to the footage, for the final conform."

You are in a very short period of time going to be able to show up on set shoot, post, conform, and deliver the same day. Unbelievable how fast things are changing. If you read my Quote in Post Magazine, the day when Red becomes the dominate format for film, and television production. Has, thanks to Adobe and the Red coding team taken a quantum leap in that direction.

After seeing what, I saw my only request is Red codes for multi-thread processing, because if you combine Adobe with the computing power of systems like Pixellexis's new machine with 32 intel processors, the sky is going to be the limit.

I say this with great passion, fucking bravo!!!!!!!!!

 

[Gunleik Groven]

Is the debayer is limited to 1/2 processors by through the SDK?
(No complaing here, just askin'...)

What kind of realtine playback performance?
What was the monitoring route?

Good news

Gunleik

 

[Andrew Benz]

Adobeone, do you have a link to your quote in "Post".

How soon is "soon" for the Adobe solution?

Thanks.

 

[Russ McDonald]

Is the debayer is limited to 1/2 processors by through the SDK?
(No complaing here, just askin'...)

What kind of realtine playback performance?
What was the monitoring route?

Good news

Gunleik

Dude it was a laptop plugged into a projector , it had two processors, all he had at the time was 2K files , they now have 4k files by the way. He went all the way from 1/4 res up to full 2k, 23.97 with a few clicks of the mouse. Also watching key R3d files was quick and efficient in AE. Did a full res, RAM preview believe me, I wasn't waiting long. I don't see why you would do this on the set kind of over kill, but you can do it. To paraphrase Days of Thunder, "Those tires are match and staggered special. You can hold it"

 

[Russ McDonald]

Adobeone, do you have a link to your quote in "Post".

How soon is "soon" for the Adobe solution?

Thanks.

LINK to Quote

I wish I could answer the timing question, I can't. Can you believe they are not putting me in the loop on this, Shocking I know. I'm sure you're all appalled at their complete disregard, of the reality that this is Adobeone's world and they just live in it

 

[Gunleik Groven]

So fullrezHigh @ 2k...

Anyone know is Adobe are @ IBC?

 

[Esteban Sosnitsky]

Please release this beast to all of us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What do you think scratch would do better than adobe with this plug in??
Just curious.. never had a scratch to play with, was considering it until I heard about this plug in

 

[Russ McDonald]

Please release this beast to all of us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What do you think scratch would do better than adobe with this plug in??
Just curious.. never had a scratch to play with, was considering it until I heard about this plug in

As I recall the Scratch system can conform the entire timeline of a feature film from openning credits, to rear title crawl, with out a breaking a sweat. I don't know if an adobe suite can do that, but I look forward to trying.

 

[Cüneyt Kaya]

Please release this beast to all of us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What do you think scratch would do better than adobe with this plug in??
Just curious.. never had a scratch to play with, was considering it until I heard about this plug in

realtime Colorgrading at 2k ---no render needed, scratch does this because it uses the gpu for that stuff...

rendering is still made by the cpu....so same long renders as in adobe while exporting but not while grading.

but if aftereffects can be run through the gpu (maybe its possible and i am not aware of it) things will change again......or they buy speedgrade...hehe

 

[Martin Weiss]

Anyone know if Adobe are @ IBC?

They are indeed. 7.H21 / M284

http://www.ibc.org/cgi-bin/exhib_detail_cms.cgi?db_id=1475

There ought to be a shuttle service between the RED lounge and Adobe

 

[Thomas Mathai]

The demo was interesting even though it was still an alpha build. You set the resolution you want to work in, and load in the R3D file and off you go. Then you set your output resolution, which they expect to be done more intelligently later.

The issue with Adobe in general is the lack of XML support so handshaking with other XML savvy non-Adobe apps is going to be harder. I doubt I'd want to deal with an EDL.

Though I'm told at IBC or August 23rd what is CS4 will be much more meta data aware.

I'm hoping that Adobe also puts out more info on their CinemaDNG format.

 

[Gunleik Groven]

YO Apple. Are you listening?

So now I must look into Adobe in addition to Assimilate, Iridas, Nucoda, Matrix and...


What did they use to say:
So many ladies, so little time...

 

[Cüneyt Kaya]

i learned on adobe....going back home if it can stand what it promises

 

[Gunleik Groven]

Kaya, you coming to IBC?

 

[Sarah C.]

I was there.. have used AE on my laptop on set with low res video assist files to do a multicomp.. this is a great leap to the next lvl!

~Sarah

 

[Russ McDonald]

i learned on adobe....going back home if it can stand what it promises

Seeing the alpha plug-in from Adobe, and what I've heard from an unnamed source inside Red, They will deliver beyond expectation. Look, as an artist I am a fanboy and proud to say it. As a business man I am very hard to please, and demand performance. I think it's clear that both companies involved, have proved they can deliver...

I think you have nothing to worry about, as I have said you are only limited by your processing power. I've cut on everything, in the end they all do the same thing. With the Red Premiere workflow, and the combined suite of tools from Adobe. Finally Premiere will be recognized as more than the program your Uncle Dangerfield cuts his Wedding Videos on.

 

[Cüneyt Kaya]

Kaya, you coming to IBC?

yes...watch out, i will be near the element technica booth

 

[Paul Hazlett]

...Finally Premiere will be recognized as more than the program your Uncle Dangerfield cuts his Wedding Videos on.

you keep Uncle Dangey out of this!!!


If Adobe can come thru, it will turn alot of heads

 

[Shane Betts]

One question I still have is, how does it deal with titles, keys etc.? What does it render out to (either PP or AE).

In other words, do FX suddenly add an uncompressed 4k clip into a 36MB/s timeline? If you edit in PP, do your titles in AE and then go to Scratch or Speedgrade for the grade, how do those FX shots translate/migrate?

 

[Cüneyt Kaya]

Seeing the alpha plug-in from Adobe, and what I've heard from an unnamed source inside Red, They will deliver beyond expectation. Look, as an artist I am a fanboy and proud to say it. As a business man I am very hard to please, and demand performance. I think it's clear that both companies involved, have proved they can deliver...

I think you have nothing to worry about, as I have said you are only limited by your processing power. I've cut on everything, in the end they all do the same thing. With the Red Premiere workflow, and the combined suite of tools from Adobe. Finally Premiere will be recognized as more than the program your Uncle Dangerfield cuts his Wedding Videos on.

that is a word man...actually i love pp