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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Here's a feature request ...

It's a fine philosophical concept, but what precisely do you think the removal of features would improve, and what features would be removed? Improving the UI is always great, but not at the expense of essential features.
 
I thought it was an excellent talk; I surprised myself by listening to the whole thing (1 hr 4 minutes long). Much food for thought there.
 
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"Innovation is not about saying yes to everything. It's about saying NO to all but the most crucial features."

--- Steve Jobs
 
technology aside, I'm familiar with Barry Schwartz's work (fascinating stuff, right?!) but you have to remember he calls it "Paradox" of choice. He pointing out the pitfalls of too many choices, but never claims the world isn't better because of the availability of those choices. It's a paradox. With all of the new choices come new responsibilities.

The real key is to educate yourself as much as possible on all of these choices and what they ultimately mean.

ie don't limit the features on my camera :)
 
Streamlined designs

Streamlined designs

"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler." --- Albert Einstein.
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This was one of the fundamental questions we asked we when designing the RED ONE. i.e what DON"T we need?

For example, because we don't record 8-bit 4:2:2 YCC images, what you therefore don't see is a whole bunch of film gamma / sharpness / matrix / black stretch etc controls.

etc etc
 
That strategy is hugely successful for some, but it depends who you're targeting.

It's why the Apple iPod has been a massive success, for example. 99,999/100,000 people love how simple iPods/iTunes is. But there's always that 1/100,000 (in this case me) who wants/needs their media library to do things iTunes can't.

But in my opinion Jim's whole thing with Red (or Oakley, in fact) is building for that 1/100,000. The "how can we make this better" philosophy of product design is why I love Red. I don't think their brains are wired right for the penny-pinching business of making plastic camcorders for the other 99,999.
 
Lee Saxon said:
But in my opinion Jim's whole thing with Red (or Oakley, in fact) is building for that 1/100,000. The "how can we make this better" philosophy of product design is why I love Red. I don't think their brains are wired right for the penny-pinching business of making plastic camcorders for the other 99,999.
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Avid vs Apple vs Adobe NLE - Is it religion or innovation or the iPod as a cousin that will win out?

I still say that he who holds the high ground can rain down profits on those trying to climb the hill. If Red builds the best high-end camera then it can also lend its name to Canon, Nikon, or Sigma to produce the other 99,999 Red/iPod-cams for the consumer when it needs more cash to survive.

As for TED talks, I prefer the Spaghetti Sauce Talk as that means there is a Red camera for dyslexic one-eyed students on the way even if all the surveys say there is no market for that model.

Mama Mia - http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/malcolm_gladwell_on_spaghetti_sauce.html

BTW - I prefer Prego Extra Chunky,

Rosco
 
Ultra simplicity is great for consumer products. The RED is a professional product. You buy a RED expecting to need to learn to use it, because it is a product with many great and highly useful capabilities, even if implementing them in practical use may not be immediately apparent.

Carrying the ipod comparison further, the ipod nests its settings in menus, because the ability to change preferences at a moments notice is unnecessary and subordinate to primary task of playing music. With a professional camera, preferences are nearly as essential as the ability to film itself. With nearly every scene you will be changing at least one setting, justifying a more complex user interface. Despite an increased learning curve, the more immediate access to different settings is important.
 
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Kenneth Elkington said:
Not to be rude, but you haven't cited any examples of why and how you would apply this design philosophy to a cinema camera.
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I put up this post to balance out all the feature requests that pepper the RED team.

I think simple is beautiful, and so do others with more credibility than me (Apple, Leica, Lotus). I just encourage RED to "Start With No".
 
lotus

lotus

totally off topic, but that Lotus out maneuvered an Apache helicopter on "Top Gear". very cool tiny car.
 
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