Help with Grading!!!

[Rodrigo Violante]

I will try to make this message as simple as possible, so I been trying to do some color grading but I'm having so much issues, and I wanted to get a little insight of what I am doing wrong or what can I improve. I want to point out that I shoot everything IPP2 and RWG and Log3G10.

Red Cine X-Pro:

Usually when I do the first import everything is setup to Dragon 4 and RedGamma 4 by default with no IPP2 so I need to apply the new settings and then save it to RMD, it only saves the RWG and LOG3G10 not the IPP2, and if I use the beta, each time I open a clip it erases any settings I have previously made.

Premiere Pro:

I been trying to do color grading in Premiere Pro, since I have found that its not that bad for Color Grading since I can use layers and then I can add LUTs and try different ones with just one click (in resolve I need to go into the menu and it becomes a pain), but I'm having an Issue, Usually I create 2 layers, the first layer is to setup only for IPP2 so I can have the correct color.

The other layer is to putt he LUT I can't, but Im getting this weird color in the preview:

Funny thing is that if I run the encoder it will look just fine, so I don't have any clue why this is happening. So I usually open Resolve DaVinci where I have this issues

DaVinci:

My biggest issue with davinci are this 2:

- I cannot set that my project becomes RWG and Log3G10, so I have to click each clip and convert it manually to RWG and Log3G10, which can become a pain when you have so many small clips, is there a way to simplify this? Since also the use camera metadata doesn't respect the RWG and Log3G10. that I put while recording.
- Is there a fast way to scroll between different LUTS in a faster way?

After I do the work in DaVinci, should I export it directly there to final video? or should I make a ProRes Video file and reimport them in PP with FCP import.

Sorry for such a long message but I feel I might be doing a lot of things wrong.

Thanks!

Rodrigo

 

[Marcus Friedlander]

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DaVinci:

My biggest issue with davinci are this 2:

- I cannot set that my project becomes RWG and Log3G10, so I have to click each clip and convert it manually to RWG and Log3G10, which can become a pain when you have so many small clips, is there a way to simplify this? Since also the use camera metadata doesn't respect the RWG and Log3G10. that I put while recording.
- Is there a fast way to scroll between different LUTS in a faster way?

Rodrigo

Hey there I can only really help with these two questions.

1. In the settings menu, there is a panel for CAMERA RAW.

In the panel on the upper right corner, there is a drop down menu that will allow you to select R3D.

Once on the R3D page, change the debayer setting from CAMERA METADATA to PROJECT.

Then change the debayer settings on that page to RWG and Log3G10.

Now all of your clips will read as RWG/Log3G10.

Then, at the bottom of the page, there are three checkboxes for ISO, WB, and one other parameter which I can't remember off the top of my head.

If you want to keep your ISO consistent across the whole project, do not click the box. If you want to use the ISO that you shot with, then DO click the box.


2. As far as LUTS go, there is not currently a great way to look at luts in Resolve. However I remember reading another post about this question and someone recommended a lut viewing program (it might have been called LUTVIEWER, but I don't remember.) to solve this exact problem.

Hope that was of some help!

 

[Marc Wielage]

You could always just color-correct the material manually (in any program, not just Resolve) and avoid using LUTs entirely. The advantage of doing it this way is that you can carefully craft the look specifically for each shot, rather than pull something out that doesn't take into account how its shot.

It does take time and experience to learn color-correction programs, but I would say the same thing about editing, sound, or VFX as well. It's not a fast process, but anything good is rarely fast, particularly in post.

 

[Rodrigo Violante]

Thank you so much!!! This is really helpful you just save me so much time!

Hey there I can only really help with these two questions.

1. In the settings menu, there is a panel for CAMERA RAW.

In the panel on the upper right corner, there is a drop down menu that will allow you to select R3D.

Once on the R3D page, change the debayer setting from CAMERA METADATA to PROJECT.

Then change the debayer settings on that page to RWG and Log3G10.

Now all of your clips will read as RWG/Log3G10.

Then, at the bottom of the page, there are three checkboxes for ISO, WB, and one other parameter which I can't remember off the top of my head.

If you want to keep your ISO consistent across the whole project, do not click the box. If you want to use the ISO that you shot with, then DO click the box.


2. As far as LUTS go, there is not currently a great way to look at luts in Resolve. However I remember reading another post about this question and someone recommended a lut viewing program (it might have been called LUTVIEWER, but I don't remember.) to solve this exact problem.

Hope that was of some help!

 

[Rodrigo Violante]

I understand, but sometimes I have based LUTS where I start grading on top of those, but I agree everything that comes out great takes time