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Help: Lighting Package for 10-12k?

MALCOLM MILLS said:
Check out the LEDZ line. Especially the BRUTE16 equivelant to a 200w HMI fixture, with an on-board dimmer, 40-year lifespan and around $2,500 a winner!

WWW.LED-Z.COM
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Do you have an images of the light quality, etc? Not product pictures. Are multiple shadows created? Is it a soft light, hard light? I can better understand the light if I saw it lighting an normal interior and a model.

Thanks.
 
Jason Ing said:
Thanks for the feedback Spinflight.

You said you're using the Diva over the arris. What do you think the Diva 400's are equivalent to in light (2k, 1k, 650?). Does the dim feature change the temp? I heard that the vista beam "dials" by turning off/on lamps one by one.

It sounds like a great concept of being able to "throw" soft light. Can the vista beam use household current?

thanks.
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The Divas are probably more on the lines of an arri 300. But remember it's about surface area as well as output. the Diva has a much bigger footprint than a hard pin source light like the arri. I also strickly try to use daylight bulbs only in the Divas which gives a bit more light as well. Usually the tungsten is used for room fill just to warm things up a bit but thats all to taste.

The dimming on the Divas do change the temp a bit but very little. It's so small that I don't notice.

The Vista Beam has a lo and a hi output. And that setting applies to all six bulbs. You can turn on 1 bulb or all six. The bulbs are either on or off, not dimmable. Yes household current is plenty for the Vista Beam.
 
Jason Ing said:
Do you have an images of the light quality, etc? Not product pictures. Are multiple shadows created? Is it a soft light, hard light? I can better understand the light if I saw it lighting an normal interior and a model.

Thanks.
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I haven't used the 16, but I have 2 brute9's and I like them a lot. They DO cast multiple shadows though, which means I only use them as bounce and they work perfect when back lighting. They are not the cheapest option, but they're reasonable (REDuser's get a significant discount) and they're built like tanks! I've gotten really lazy with them, tossing them in the my car or setting them up in precarious situations where I've watched them lose balance and fall 7 feet to the floor with barely a scratch. And they're small and compact which makes them even more convenient.

I can at least say it's definitely worth going to check out in person.
 
Hmmm... I'm really liking this Vista Beam. The divas are smaller then the 4banks, so that's why I was going with the 4bank gaffer kit. I'll double check the divas when I go to the showroom soon.

Thanks!
 
Brandon said:
I haven't used the 16, but I have 2 brute9's and I like them a lot. They DO cast multiple shadows though, which means I only use them as bounce and they work perfect when back lighting. They are not the cheapest option, but they're reasonable (REDuser's get a significant discount) and they're built like tanks! I've gotten really lazy with them, tossing them in the my car or setting them up in precarious situations where I've watched them lose balance and fall 7 feet to the floor with barely a scratch. And they're small and compact which makes them even more convenient.

I can at least say it's definitely worth going to check out in person.
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Remind me not to loan you my lights, Brandon. :)

So they're good for bouncing. I could get a cheap par for that. Must be something more to them. Have you tried putting a diffuser in front to make it a single source soft light? Does it have enough punch and even spread for that?
 
Are you guys liking the 2900k or 3200k bulbs for the 4 bank? The 5500k are a given.
 
Jason Ing said:
Remind me not to loan you my lights, Brandon. :)

So they're good for bouncing. I could get a cheap par for that. Must be something more to them. Have you tried putting a diffuser in front to make it a single source soft light? Does it have enough punch and even spread for that?
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I can tell you that all my non LED lights are intact and in perfect condition :)

I think they now offer a gel holder, but I haven't used it. The "something more" I think is the compact size and extreme durability. I think I read that they've sold a bunch to the military or something. Thats the appeal for me anyway.
 
Brandon said:
just say so when you contact them
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..you mean only when I buy from the Brute manufacturer directly, right?
Are there any discounts when you purchase through a distributor?
I am interested in getting some Dedolights, and planning on going through B&H, as I typically do, but is there a place, a holy grail, that offers REDuser discounts on a variety of gear?!? ....like Dedolights :greedy: ?
 
Contact Malcolm Mills who co-founded the company. WWW.LED-Z.COM

Maybe he's aware of the discount? mmills@westbayfinancialcorp.com

And if you find a discount on Dedolights, let me know too! I'll be shopping around and maybe we can compare prices. What are you looking for in Dedo lights?
 
Jason Ing said:
Contact Malcolm Mills who co-founded the company. WWW.LED-Z.COM

Maybe he's aware of the discount? mmills@westbayfinancialcorp.com

And if you find a discount on Dedolights, let me know too! I'll be shopping around and maybe we can compare prices. What are you looking for in Dedo lights?
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I am comparing the DLH4 and the DLHM kits, I want to get one or two of them.
Do you know if there is any difference between them, besides the fact that the DLHM has the power supply/dimmer attached to the light head, and the powersupply/dimmer for DLH4 is attached via cable?
 
cineben said:
..you mean only when I buy from the Brute manufacturer directly, right?
Are there any discounts when you purchase through a distributor?
I am interested in getting some Dedolights, and planning on going through B&H, as I typically do, but is there a place, a holy grail, that offers REDuser discounts on a variety of gear?!? ....like Dedolights :greedy: ?
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yeah, I got my discount through Malcolm. contact him through led-z.com or just send him a private message on here.

BJ at customsupply.com seems to be most people's stand-by for discounts on gear.
 
cineben said:
I am comparing the DLH4 and the DLHM kits, I want to get one or two of them.
Do you know if there is any difference between them, besides the fact that the DLHM has the power supply/dimmer attached to the light head, and the powersupply/dimmer for DLH4 is attached via cable?
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In the brochure, it says, "The Dedolight DLH4 light heads may be used in the rain, snow and although not recommended, have been demonstrated while totally immersed in water." It doesn't mention the DLHM. I don't know if this was a mistake or it's only the DLH4. I think the DLH4 is the newer version, 4th generation. But having the power supply separate is good if you want to keep the head smaller and lighter so you can hide or hang it in nooks and crannies. BJ might be able to tell you if there is more differences.
 
Jason Ing said:
In the brochure, it says, "The Dedolight DLH4 light heads may be used in the rain, snow and although not recommended, have been demonstrated while totally immersed in water." It doesn't mention the DLHM. I don't know if this was a mistake or it's only the DLH4...
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I think you're right, on the DLH4 since the power is not attached you can place the light anywhere, even submerged underwater, and without even any outside protection/casing needed.

Man, that is one badass light!

I think the DLH4 is the way to go, way more versatile, and you can also use them with the other Dedo power supplies, and I can't get over the fact that you can submerge them underwater! Esta loco!
 
I am comparing the DLH4 and the DLHM kits, I want to get one or two of them.
Do you know if there is any difference between them, besides the fact that the DLHM has the power supply/dimmer attached to the light head, and the powersupply/dimmer for DLH4 is attached via cable?
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DLHMs are normed for a specific country region. You can't just change the ballast because the ballast is mounted to the lamphead. The dimming functionality is not the same like on the DLH4 afaik.
 
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