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HDMI got mugged, was beaten, and left for dead....

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On Tuesday, Sony, LG, and Samsung finalized their own A/V cable standard to replace HDMI on their electronics. So long HDMI. Hello HDBaseT (CAT 5/6 Ethernet). At least I won't have to go out and buy any since I can make em myself. :violin:
 
Oh great - yet ANOTHER standard! Well at least the cabling is cheap! :-)
 
MichaelHalsell said:
The HDMI royalty is 4 cents per device. Is that correct?
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Pretty much, yes. Assuming you do what they want you to. The gist, based on the literature, is that the switch to using Ethernet cabling and connectors makes it cheaper for everyone involved and it takes the "one cable" idea farther than HDMI has as of yet. It looks as if this new standard incorporates all the groundwork that HDMI has done as far as figuring out what direction to go in with the technology and they are saying it's pretty future-proof because of it's design and ease of implementation.
 
They may still be paying royalties, as the data stream and DHCP standards should be the same.
We use HDMI to Cat5/6 conversion devices quite a bit to extend cabling distances, but these are not Ethernet compatible.
I wonder if the new standard will be for direct connection between devices or for connection via Ethernet networks and switches.
Everything seems to be heading rapidly toward two cabling standards: CAT6/7 and fiber.
 
David Rasberry said:
I wonder if the new standard will be for direct connection between devices or for connection via Ethernet networks and switches.
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The literature suggests the devices will be connected to existing home networks but they also talk about daisy chained devices as well. I suspect the Powerline Ethernet adapters will come into play since wireless networks are what the majority of homes have due to the popularity of notebooks. Hopefully, they can bring the price of those down. If they don't, they will be dead in the water.
 
this is awesome, i'll most definitely want a giant spool of Cat6 to wire my house and everything in sight
 
I wonder if there will be beefed up Cat6 connectors.
 
HDMI is more than just a connector type, I would love to see HDMI move to using Cat5/6.
 
I'm still not ready to believe it... Since when does the consumer electronics industry, especially when Sony is involved, ever make such a rational decision such as this?

This is the real deal here. CAT-5e and CAT-6 rated cabling supported along with appropriately rated standard RJ-45 connectors. The standard can co-exist on IP networks and be run through routers and multiplexers along with regular IP traffic. However it seems that hubs, switches and other IP devices will have to be upgraded to support HDbaseT in addition to standard IP traffic.

This should have come about 10 years ago... But late is better than never, I guess.
 
I agree with Jeff...

I can't quite believe it, but it could be awesome.

Guarded excitement here.

Will RED play along with these guys?

The thing I hate most about HDMI in production environments is how easily the cables disconnect or break, and how hard they are to fix/make.

Cat 6 cable would be fantastic for every place we presently use HDMI on sets now.
 
ericyoung said:
I wonder if there will be beefed up Cat6 connectors.
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What's out now just says "standard Ethernet connectors". I don't think they will mess with the physical design though they might come up with a reinforced cable design.
 
Shawn Nelson said:
this is awesome, i'll most definitely want a giant spool of Cat6 to wire my house and everything in sight
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We have tons left over from cabling the studio in CAT 6 - feeling like a prescient genius now if this proves true! We did it for future 10-GIGe
 
THEN WHO IS CABLE?!

Ahem, anyway. Everybody loves CAT 5/6. Everybody can make cable, it's cheap, and readily available. I certainly hope this takes off. In fact, I hope EVERYTHING becomes CAT 6. But I'll keep dreaming.
 
Note that Epic already has a GigE interface.... I wonder if it's just firmware update to allow it to broadcast HDCP stream through it?
 
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