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Have RPPs been discontinued? Why?

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I'm sure this has been discussed but I can't find information about this.

What is the deal with the RPPs? Have they been officially discontinued?

Was there a reason for them being discontinued? Do they not fully cover DSMC or Dragon or something?

The reviews I have seen are pretty positive, but the fact that they don't offer them anymore (or, at least, not the full line) is somewhat strange.
 
you can still score them used here and there...
 
It's not because sales sucked - quite the contrary. They sold out most of them already and were faced with having to order another large batch.
As Jarred has pointed out - when they have made RPP's - there were no alternatives. Now (thanks to the RPP's!) there are way too many choices, so RED decided to focus on what they do best - the cameras and accessories...

Peter
 
Hens, the sales were sucking... The market just can't uphold big heavy PL lenses right now when there are other lenses that are just as good that cost the same but weigh half the weight.

Peter Majtan said:
It's not because sales sucked - quite the contrary. They sold out most of them already and were faced with having to order another large batch.
As Jarred has pointed out - when they have made RPP's - there were no alternatives. Now (thanks to the RPP's!) there are way too many choices, so RED decided to focus on what they do best - the cameras and accessories...

Peter
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full frame still lenses are much more affordable, hold their value, way more versitle and serviceable!
i even get directors that say; "as long as you are not shooting on red lenses..."
 
Not only that but with all of the other mounts (Nikon, Canon etc...) the market is narrowed even more, and therefore even more competition has been introduced. I know that there is a certain percentage that will use PL only, but that percentage is getting smaller and smaller from what I see. Because resolution has grown so much the use of older and even newer DSLR primes and zooms has been greatly afforded. I'm not knocking RPP's at all. I had a set, and loved them! They are wicked sharp! But I did sell them and in place of them, I now have Nikon lenses.
 
so much nonsense in this industry...people say so many dumb things, based on nothing.

RPPs are excellent lenses. I own Master Primes and an 85mm RED prime (there is no 85mm focal length available in the Master Prime set) and they're indistinguishable. I cut between them all the time.

I'm picking up a box of used RED Pro Primes this week, because they are great lenses, a tremendous value for the quality of the image, and because I can put them to work on more productions than my Master Primes, because of their affordability.

it's funny how no one ever proclaims Master Primes too big and heavy....
 
Meryem Ersoz said:
it's funny how no one ever proclaims Master Primes too big and heavy....
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i would say its because not as much people on this forum own the master primes, too expensive...and its hard to complain about zeiss!
 
I would love a set of Cooke primes. Please let me know where I can buy some at $4,500.00 a piece.
 
jordan levy said:
full frame still lenses are much more affordable, hold their value, way more versitle and serviceable!
i even get directors that say; "as long as you are not shooting on red lenses..."
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Why do these directors single out the RPP's? Or are they referring to the very first zoom that came out?
 
jordan levy said:
full frame still lenses are much more affordable, hold their value, way more versitle and serviceable!
i even get directors that say; "as long as you are not shooting on red lenses..."
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Quite the opposite from my experience. 95% of the people I work with loathe still lenses for shooting video. The other 5% are ok with them for locked off shots or for throwing on a dslr for a C or D camera. The RPP's are still some of the sharpest cinema glass out there and produce one hell of an image. The only " issue" with them is that they are heavy as shit. Any stedi-cam worth his or her salt can handle a red one with RPP's on it. The only " still " lenses I have used and liked were the CP.2s and those we had to rent because the RPP's were out on shoots.
 
C.H.Haskell said:
I find my masterpimes to be a bit big and heavy, I can only fit 1 or 2 in my satchel.
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I nearly threw my 24-290 into a wall when it didn't fit into my DSLR backpack ;-)
 
Love them

Love them

I have the whole set and we use them on 60% of our shoots. They have already paid for themselves and I would not sell them for retail cost.

They are on the heavy side ... but in very many camera set-ups that does not matter much.

They are very sharp and impart very little of their own "look". For clients wanting to define that look in post, this can be nice.

It's also a great set of primes to send out when they want to shoot Red ... but are on a budget.
 
Jon Jones said:
Hens, the sales were sucking... The market just can't uphold big heavy PL lenses right now when there are other lenses that are just as good that cost the same but weigh half the weight.
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What costs the same as the RPP? Zeiss CP2s are a tad more cash. Cookes are twice the price, so are Schneiders... Ultras, Masters, and everything else is a whole lot more...


No idea what else is cheap as RPP's and not still glass?

Please enlighten me, I'd genuinely be interested but I can't find anything cheap...
 
I'm also sad that Red Primes are not around any more, especially since I don't have a complete set. I do hope to buy a few more used later one, but it's a bit concerning.
I do wish them would do more.
/Andreas
 
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