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Hackintosh

There's a big debate about "legality" and Hackintosh. Sparknotes: it's not piracy or stealing, because you do buy actual software, but it does violate Apple's EULA.

Even though Psystar supposedly lost / settled their case with Apple, they are still selling a Core i7 Hackintosh:

http://store.psystar.com/featured/open7-osx.html?SID=0107mgk4t5oot9dfuo6ltv41d0

Basically, it's a gray area. Personally, I would not hesitate to build a hackintosh if it suited my needs. If I were running a business, however, I would consider it more carefully and try to read through some of the notes from the Psystar case.
 
Complicated!

Complicated!

I have try myself an hackingtosh and it's a bit complicated.
The environnement seems to work fine, but can't configure network card.
You gotta search a lot for the drivers.
Even if you buy one because you don't wanna make your own, they don't garanty that every programs will work :nono:

BP
 
Guys I'm speaking from Running HackPros for 4 years, since before Apple first made the switch to intel. If you can't run it, you dont understand how Mac OSX works. You dont need drivers, you only need a bootloader. Every program works 100%, There are NO hacked Drivers on my systems. Vanilla installs are as close to legal as it gets.

You do not need EFI-X, google: Chameleon
 
Vanilla installs have not been working for four years. That's incorrect.

And it's not as simple as "you don't know how OS X works".
 
Vanilla installs have been working since Leopard.

If you can stick a disc in, and then read your motherboard manual, then yes you can install this.
 
Alex Carr said:
Vanilla installs have been working since Leopard.

If you can stick a disc in, and then read your motherboard manual, then yes you can install this.
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Then you should go into business where people like psystar have failed.... they still need to supply updated drivers. :willy_nilly: I did the hackintosh thing for a bit. It worth every penny for the real thing.

-Josh
 
Updated Drivers For what??? I dont want to be tech support for people who dont understand their computers.\

BTW, Psystar didnt fail. They exploited a weakness in Apple's EULA agreement.
 
Alex Carr said:
Updated Drivers For what??? I dont want to be tech support for people who dont understand their computers.\

BTW, Psystar didnt fail. They exploited a weakness in Apple's EULA agreement.
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By fail I'm talking about their apparent lack of OSX prowess. As you said, if they really knew OSX they wouldn't need drivers.

-Josh
 
Thats what I mean, there are no more Drivers. The bootloader acts as an EFI layer and communicates directly to the Hardware.

I will agree with everyone here that HacPro's are not for everyone, It takes some research and understanding. I was always interested in how Mac OSX works, I build Machnes to Mimic real Macs/

They are not necessarliy that much cheaper. if you go for Cheap it wont run that well...Anybody will tell you that. Thats no longer the reason I run them. Its about Customization, and freedom of GPU's.
 
Alex Carr said:
Thats what I mean, there are no more Drivers. The bootloader acts as an EFI layer and communicates directly to the Hardware.

I will agree with everyone here that HacPro's are not for everyone, It takes some research and understanding. I was always interested in how Mac OSX works, I build Machnes to Mimic real Macs/

They are not necessarliy that much cheaper. if you go for Cheap it wont run that well...Anybody will tell you that. Thats no longer the reason I run them. Its about Customization, and freedom of GPU's.
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What do you mean? How difficult is the job for a newbie and average user?
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Crosman pro77 2 extra clips
 
Alex Carr said:
Thats what I mean, there are no more Drivers. The bootloader acts as an EFI layer and communicates directly to the Hardware.

I will agree with everyone here that HacPro's are not for everyone, It takes some research and understanding. I was always interested in how Mac OSX works, I build Machnes to Mimic real Macs/

They are not necessarliy that much cheaper. if you go for Cheap it wont run that well...Anybody will tell you that. Thats no longer the reason I run them. Its about Customization, and freedom of GPU's.
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Now if it's only for customization I can totally see that. But I would never reccommend someone trying to implement a hackpro into their business. It's not cost effective to fiddle with them.

-Josh
 
hackintosh only as a last resort

hackintosh only as a last resort

My first question would be, why are you looking into the hackintosh route?

If it's just to save money, I think you'll only end up creating more headaches for yourself in the end. Yes, the price difference between Mac and PC is appalling, but I'd say get a night job bar tending for a month, save up an extra $2,000, and get a real Mac Pro. :thumbsup:

If it's for other reasons, let us know what they are.

For instance, we've currently got a project that exists in both Final Cut and Premiere. I prefer my PC system, but I need to be able to work in Final Cut. I'd rather not have an entire extra system just to be able to take a look at that Final Cut project, so I started looking into hackintosh.

After speaking to a LOT of people whom I consider experts in the field, I finally ran screaming in the other direction. Hackintosh just seemed like there were far too many pitfalls to consider it a viable option for a Video Editing machine.

If you're just screwing around with Mac on a PC machine, that's one thing, but if you're using it as a serious tool, I'd look for other options.
 
Yeah this is insanity for a RED system- you're paying 17,500 for the camera body alone and you're looking to save a couple grand getting a Mac with no warranty, no tech support and mountain of potential conflicts and bugs to go with it. Why?

Noah
 
I hate spending time to fix or maintain my PC, once I get more $, I will get an Apple. Thanks guys for the input.
 
Joseph Ward said:
I hate spending time to fix or maintain my PC, once I get more $, I will get an Apple. Thanks guys for the input.
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You think you won't have to fix or maintain your Apple? The only difference is it costs more to fix and maintain!
 
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