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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Gunfire at night..

hmm

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what frame rate you shooting at? I imagine the more you overcrank it the less tearing will be an issue, but you'd have to try messing around to find out. Same with adjusting the shutter speed...
 
Brian Merlen said:
what frame rate you shooting at? I imagine the more you overcrank it the less tearing will be an issue, but you'd have to try messing around to find out. Same with adjusting the shutter speed...
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I imagine so too, but had hoped someone had solid info..Will be shooting 5K ana@ 96(WHY CANT 5K ANA BE 100fps PLEASE...)..
 
Trevor Meeks said:
because 96 translates easier to 24?
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Sure, I know that...Its just that all of the real world uses 25fps....4x 25=100...Just like nobody in the scientific world uses miles, inches, ounces, AM/PM or gallons;-)

I remember some Mars mission where there was a small miscalculation.....


But joking aside...Examples or info please.....Will be testing if N/A...
 
If you are using real guns/blanks you may get split frames. If it's dramatic, non guns work great as does adding muzzle flash in post. With the range of raw, a good FX guy can bump up the exposure in a matte around the area of the flash to mimic the lighting change.

Nick
 
Nick Gardner said:
If you are using real guns/blanks you may get split frames. If it's dramatic, non guns work great as does adding muzzle flash in post. With the range of raw, a good FX guy can bump up the exposure in a matte around the area of the flash to mimic the lighting change.

Nick
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Thanks.
We will be using real guns with blanks...1-2.000 rounds...Musicvideo and no way to fix this in post....I think I will shoot film...
 
Nick Gardner said:
If you are using real guns/blanks you may get split frames. If it's dramatic, non guns work great as does adding muzzle flash in post. With the range of raw, a good FX guy can bump up the exposure in a matte around the area of the flash to mimic the lighting change.
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It's amazing how good that can look. Tarentino did that with a lot of the gunfire scenes in Inglorious Basterds, and I was floored by how good the VFX were.
 
I had an exterior night gunfight sequence in a short recently, shot on Epic and MX. We had several pistols, rifles and a .30 cal machine gun with quarter loaded rounds.

All I had to do was open the shutter more when there was gunfire. I think I used 270 degrees a lot, and sometimes 360 degrees.

You'll be able to see the muzzle flashes clearly or not, so it will be easy to find a good shutter speed on the day.

If you have the light for it, you may want to stick with Epic for the easier overcranking. I got a couple of pretty sweet 120fps shots with empty shells ejecting.
 
Naim Sutherland said:
I had an exterior night gunfight sequence in a short recently, shot on Epic and MX. We had several pistols, rifles and a .30 cal machine gun with quarter loaded rounds.

All I had to do was open the shutter more when there was gunfire. I think I used 270 degrees a lot, and sometimes 360 degrees.

You'll be able to see the muzzle flashes clearly or not, so it will be easy to find a good shutter speed on the day.

If you have the light for it, you may want to stick with Epic for the easier overcranking. I got a couple of pretty sweet 120fps shots with empty shells ejecting.
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Thanks, very helpfull.
 
It's amazing how good that can look. Tarentino did that with a lot of the gunfire scenes in Inglorious Basterds, and I was floored by how good the VFX were.
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Ive worked a lot with real guns and fake ones, blanks and dummy guns. It so much safer, faster, and easier to add the effect in post. I just went and looked at a bunch of stuff I have shot. It's hands down better looking too ;-)

Nick
 
You'll be able to see the muzzle flashes clearly or not, so it will be easy to find a good shutter speed on the day.
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To be clear, a muzzle flash is less than a frame so it's a crap shoot as to whether you get it or not. Film or digital. That's why people spent big money to work out prop guns with a three frame muzzle flash that is wirelessly synced to the shutter on the camera.

It really depends on what the shot is and what you need. An ecu of a gun firing is easy enough to do because you can check playback and see if you got it, and you have a 50/50 chance. 20 guys in the BG all blazing away with machine guns is a different story. So is a point blank gunshot to someones head.

I hate dumb actors with blank firing weapons because no matter how many times you tell them not too, they point the damn things at your head.

The only down side to using non firing weapons is that the actors almost always make 10 year old gun fight sound effects when they are shooting ;-)

Nick
 
Nick Gardner said:
I hate dumb actors with blank firing weapons because no matter how many times you tell them not too, they point the damn things at your head.
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People forget the sad story of 1980s actor Jon-Erik Hexum:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon-Erik_Hexum

Died on a TV set in 1984 while playing around with a blank-loaded gun, and pointed it at his own head. Senseless tragedy.

Even a 1/4-load blank can sting from 5-6 feet away. Using empty prop guns requires no permits and no armorer (as far as I know) and no insurance or safety risks. Plus you can adjust the gun blasts precisely, really accentuating the drama and lighting.
 
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