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Group purchase of Arri Matteboxes

Equipment Review:

Equipment Review:

I just got the ARRI MB-20II and Follow Focus 4 unit in. The idea here is to be able to answer any questions you may all have by looking at the unit hands on.. If you need photos, or even some video of the unit, I'd be happy to help. I am not going to go into an in-depth review just yet, I will say... WOW.

First the mattebox:

This thing is both amazing, and friggin big. I know some of you were wondering about getting something larger. My advice to you is do not go any bigger unless you know EXACTLY why you are doing so. This mattebox will handle 95% of the lenses you will use, and if you go for a larger one, then weight and size considerations may limit you on some shots.

The engineering is amazing. There is an incredible amount of detail to this item. You can tell every single piece of it is thought out carefully. I'll have some photos later, but I can see why it costs what it does. My Croziel looks so simple all of the sudden.

The follow focus:

This thing is a tank. All metal, and made to be beaten upon with no loss of perfection.

What strikes me is that I understand that these items are not made to look good today.. They are made to still be working 10 years from now. I think that's the main thing. They will last, and last and last.

I'm glad we started this group buy. Suddenly the money does not seem so bad knowing I will most likely never need to buy these things again.

Jay

BTW: Before we get started on the "debate" I am NOT saying any other company's work is inferior.. I am simply commenting on the quality of these items. To each his own, but we are, after all, in the "ARRI group buy" thread.. So this makes sense
 
Reading through your last post, I'm getting the impression that you've gone through this whole process without having seen and used the equipment in question until now. Is this really true? this isn't intended as critisism in any way, I'm just surprised at you putting in all that effort to get a discount on something you were not familiar with. In this case, of course, you cant go wrong, they're both great bits of kit.
 
That's the power of the internet......sweet hey!

To date it hasn't been Jay's job to have ever seen the parts.

It's his job to get the best price and terms on a part that has already been scrutinised and recommended on this forum, used as the benchmark for other's design, accepted by industry professionals on this forum and others as the brand of choice and quite frankly has got very little bad press expect for cost. I would expect given the amount of exposure and comment the Arri MB & FF products has got, the real thing to focus on is cost. Sure Jay going goo goo over the item in his hand will sway people but that ain't his day job and this scrutiny has been covered else where. And as a corollory you must be surprised that people would buy a MB or FF without being familiar with it also.

So Kinosaur when you say you were surprised that Kay may not be personally familiar with the kit, was that the kind of surprise you get when you order a new car and it comes with a naked girl in the back or was it more like the surprise when you saw the back doors didn't have handles.

Cheers,
 
Jay,

Could you please put up a complete list of all items we'd get with this group purchase using the original Arri "K2.xxx" part numbers? This would help us a lot.

Thanks for your efforts! :usd:
 
Agreed, the list is a little confusing.

Dave,

lebowski, you're not allowed to use that icon after obin used it to comment on Kelly....!
 
Jay,
What is included in the MB-20II Two Tray (3436.59) item?

I'm expecting it to be:

K2.47738 - MB-20 System II Basic module with sunshade
K2.65025 - Console for Lightweight Support
K2.65026 - MB-20 Two-Stage Filter Assembly
K2.65032 - MB-20 Swingaway Module
K2.65028 - MB-20 Back 138mm Bellows Adapter

Is this correct?

Dave,
 
david farland said:
Jay,
What is included in the MB-20II Two Tray (3436.59) item?

I'm expecting it to be:

K2.47738 - MB-20 System II Basic module with sunshade
K2.65025 - Console for Lightweight Support
K2.65026 - MB-20 Two-Stage Filter Assembly
K2.65032 - MB-20 Swingaway Module
K2.65028 - MB-20 Back 138mm Bellows Adapter

Is this correct?

Dave,
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It does not include the bellows Adaptor. Everything else is spot on.
Jay
 
Abu,

I will need confirmation of the 20 matteboxes by end of Nov (Less than 10 so far).. All orders must be placed to the selected vendor (Which I expect to have next week) by Nov 10th. So everyone will have their stuff by year's end

Believe ARRI or not, after it's over it's over.

Jay
 
The 15mm adaptor, or the 19mm adaptor.. They run about $600.00 each.

That makes the discount of the follow focus about 20% or better.. That major!

Fair warning though.. If the Mattebox deal falls through, the follow focus goes with it.

Jay
 
Jay A. Kelley said:
Fair warning though.. If the Mattebox deal falls through, the follow focus goes with it.
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Crap.

Jay, if it really starts looking like the deal may fall apart, would it be possible for ARRI to consider a delay in offering the deal? I guess what I'm thinking is that a lot of potential customers probably won't be ready for such a purchase until their camera is closer to shipping. We saw it with Steve Tammi's O'Connor group buy and I've seen some of the same comments here -- even made them myself... "my camera won't ship for a few months, do we have to buy now?" or similar. Perhaps this is what ARRI wants though... They don't want to sell too many at the discount price, or any... Just thought I would throw that out there, even though it probably won't happen.
 
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