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Group purchase of Arri Matteboxes

Cost of Follow Focus 4

Cost of Follow Focus 4

Price for Follow Focus 4 is $4078 at this time..

TAKE OFF $600 since the adaptor is free.

So it's around $3400.00

The gears are extra, but everyone will buy the one that works for them

Jay
 
Warrenty Info From Eric

Warrenty Info From Eric

Hello Jay,

“ARRI Camera Accessories are warranted to be free of material and workmanship defects for a period of one year from the date of shipment.“ That being said, we have worldwide product/ parts support for everything we manufacture.

This same service is available from our subsidiaries worldwide. If a warranty situation arises while traveling abroad I am happy to put the customer in direct contact with their closest ARRI representative. We stand behind the fact that our products are the best in the industry. This is the reason ARRI is currently celebrating our 90th anniversary- few companies can make such a claim. The FF-4 and MB-20 II spare parts diagrams can be found online @ ARRI.com and subsidiaries can sell parts al la carte directly to the end user. I hope this helps to alleviate any concerns you have.


If you ever have any problems, I will personally take care of issues for this group. The way we handle this is:

- the customer sends it to our shop in NY or CA (they are responsible for shipping to ARRI)
- we evaluate if this is actually a warranty issue arising from material or workmanship defect
- repair as necessary and ship back to customer (we pay for return shipping.)


Best regards,

Eric J. Johnston
Product Manager
Camera Accessories
ARRI, Inc.
 
Would anyone in the know like to expand on the differences between the ARRI FF-3 and FF-4 for me? They're both two-speed FF units. The FF-4 has a lower profile than the FF3, sitting much lower on your rods. I can't seem to actually identify any functional differences. I'm just assuming that the FF-4 is the newer, better version.

Also, what is the final price of the FF-4 package through this deal? I'm still trying to figure out what I'm going to do here.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Would anyone in the know like to expand on the differences between the ARRI FF-3 and FF-4 for me? They're both two-speed FF units. The FF-4 has a lower profile than the FF3, sitting much lower on your rods. I can't seem to actually identify any functional differences. I'm just assuming that the FF-4 is the newer, better version.

Also, what is the final price of the FF-4 package through this deal? I'm still trying to figure out what I'm going to do here.
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Follow Focus 3 is older technology. I am told by ARRI.

Jay
 
Jay A. Kelley said:
Price for Follow Focus 4 is $4078 at this time..

TAKE OFF $600 since the adaptor is free.

So it's around $3400.00

The gears are extra, but everyone will buy the one that works for them

Jay
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I am a little confused. Is $3400 the final price with the adaptor? Or is it the effective price since the adaptor is being thrown in for free, but the total cost is still $4078.

And is this dual sided? I assume it is.
 
Jay A. Kelley said:
Follow Focus 3 is older technology. I am told by ARRI.
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That's what I'm thinking... The FF-3 is a bulkier unit, but seems functionally equivalent to the FF-4. I'm asking because a local rental house still has two FF-3 units in their rental gear that they would be willing to sell. I don't know about price yet, but I may pursue that avenue if the money is right.

I just wanted to make sure, since the FF-3 is a physically larger unit, that it won't inhibit my possible lens selection compared to the FF-4.
 
From Eric:

Jay,

FF-3 vs FF-4

FF3 is dedicated to either 15mm or 19mm Bridgeplate support; there is no lightweight support option. The FF-4 is the newer model that incorporates LWS, 15mm and 19mm support options. The FF-4 is much better suited for larger diameter cine-lenses as it has a lager lens barrel to FF body clearance. Both units have the same gear ratio and will accept a two speed focus knob. The FF-4 is the correct choice for Red users.

Regards,

Eric J. Johnston
Product Manager
Camera Accessories
ARRI, Inc.
617 Route 303
Blauvelt, NY 10913
 
What's the difference between the FF4 and FF5, for that matter?
 
Finner said:
Hi Jeff

I have spent a lot of time on the phone and over e-mails discussing pro's/con's and most everything mattebox and remote follow focus with CVB. Curt is very talented and smart to boot. I have no doubt his matte box and focus system will shake up all the competition with it's quality, features and price. The only real question is when? I sure hope it is soon but he has been quite quiet around here for a while now. For people that have the patience and the time to wait I can see it being well worth their while.
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Agree, no problem to wait for CVB, he will do a good job I'm shure.
 
FF5 for video? ... I'm clear now, thanks. I look forward to the FF4 and MB20II. How much for the remote and transmitter?
 
Guys I am trying to keep this thread focused on those who want an ARRI Mattebox.

I myself started with CVB. I wanted to use his Mattebox. But the bottom line is two fold:

1: There is no info on this mattebox, and no release date. My camera however, (Unless Jim drops a bomb tonight) is due in three weeks. I need to get shooting.

2: I know with ARRI, I will have everything I need.

It's that simple. If you don't want to pay the money for an ARRI Mattebox, then simply wait for CVB.. If you want an ARRI, then this is the thread for you!

What I DO need, is to find out who is serious about getting a mattebox, and/or follow focus. If less than 20 jump in, the deal's off.

There's not a lot of time

Jay
 
I understand Jay and agree but I have some questions.

I know that at this point I seem like the annoying guy who seems completely ignorant and not content with all your hard work, but believe me I'm not. I know you said that you just want us to say yes or no, but there's a few questions that's not answered here?
1st you're not mentioning swing away module (or did I miss it somewhere)? Is this not in this base package. This is something really crucial today and you'll have a lot happier AC's with this. If it's not, is it then allowed to include it in the order (for additional cost)?
2nd This order is only for a 2 filter stage mattebox and not 3 filter stage. Can I change that in my order? Of course I understand the 3 filter cost a little more.

Reason for me asking is because an additional buy of this filter stage is another $3500 or so, isn't it?

Kind Regards,


Fredrik
 
Jay A. Kelley said:
“...... If a warranty situation arises while traveling abroad I am happy to put the customer in direct contact with their closest ARRI representative.
..........
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Few things.....

1. The quote above mentions a client travelling overseas (not buying from overseas) and doesn't say if the local rep will fix it under warranty free of charge. I assume the overseas Arri rep will fix free of charge.
Is this correct?

2. Eric doesn't mention the situation where he sells a Matte box to an overseas client and it breaks.
This is what all overseas buyers should think about!
Will the local Arri rep when the owner lives fix/replace/lend a spare under warranty.
Probably not!

So the deal looks like it's a grey warranty arrangement.

Next question....(see quote below)

Jay A. Kelley said:
......The way we handle this is:

- the customer sends it to our shop in NY or CA (they are responsible for shipping to ARRI)
- we evaluate if this is actually a warranty issue arising from material or workmanship defect
- repair as necessary and ship back to customer (we pay for return shipping.....
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Is Eric saying that he will ship the matte box free of charge back to Australia ($180) or Kazicstan ($340) or will he ship free of charge in US only?

Sorry for the detailed questions but think it important overseas customers know exactly what the arrangements are.

Cheers,

Dave
 
weirdcrew said:
I understand Jay and agree but I have some questions.

I know that at this point I seem like the annoying guy who seems completely ignorant and not content with all your hard work, but believe me I'm not. I know you said that you just want us to say yes or no, but there's a few questions that's not answered here?
1st you're not mentioning swing away module (or did I miss it somewhere)? Is this not in this base package. This is something really crucial today and you'll have a lot happier AC's with this. If it's not, is it then allowed to include it in the order (for additional cost)?
2nd This order is only for a 2 filter stage mattebox and not 3 filter stage. Can I change that in my order? Of course I understand the 3 filter cost a little more.

Reason for me asking is because an additional buy of this filter stage is another $3500 or so, isn't it?

Kind Regards,


Fredrik
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Your questions are good ones:

The swing away is included in the quote I provided.
I think a third stage is about $300 more. That's all.
From what I am learning, I am not sure you need it.

1 stage is the ND
1 Stage is the grad
the round 138mm is the pola.
A third stage would be for a softening filter I suppose

Jay
 
For those interested in the FF4, I posted some images of mine in another thread:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?p=110639#post110639

The base FF4 has just the LW support at the top. The bottom 19mm adapter is optional and screws into the bottom, which prevents use of the LW support w/o removing the 19mm (or 15mm studio) optional bracket first. This requires an allen wrench. In other words transitioning from LW 15mm to either 15mm or 19mm studio configurations takes a few minutes and a tool.

As you can see in the images the gear arm is short, which allows positioning under the lenses. The arm barely reaches my zeiss 2.1 lenses which are very compact lenses, but they do work fine with both the Ultra Primes and standard speed Zeiss lenses.

One other note: be sure to order the wide gears...the standard gears are too narrow for some lens/matte box combinations.
 
Jay A. Kelley said:
Price for Follow Focus 4 is $4078 at this time..

TAKE OFF $600 since the adaptor is free.

So it's around $3400.00

The gears are extra, but everyone will buy the one that works for them

Jay
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Jay,
The price on the FF4 seems high. The price on FilmTools' website is $2825. A right focus knob is $624 (so you have two). That's $3449 + a 15 or 19mm adapter at $512 is $3961. Were they including two focus knobs at that price?

If not, and that's the final price, I'd have to pass on the FF4 and just go with the Mattebox. Can you address my question earlier? Does the mattebox price include the following: (Basic module + 2 filter stage + Back 138mm bellows adapter + swing away module + Console for lightweight support). If so I'm good to go.

And as someone asked, can you substitute a 3 filter stage (with an upcharge of course)? Sounds like a 3 stage would be preferrable from other threads...

Pls advise. I'll send a PM to confirm the order once I hear back.

Thanks!
 
Mark Pedersen said:
Jay,
The price on the FF4 seems high. The price on FilmTools' website is $2825. A right focus knob is $624 (so you have two). That's $3449 + a 15 or 19mm adapter at $512 is $3961. Were they including two focus knobs at that price?
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I can't seem to find a link to the FF-4 on Filmtool's website, can you direct me?
 
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