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Group purchase of Arri Matteboxes

Thank you for putting this together, Jay! It's looking like it could be a good deal. I'm very eager to see what the purchase window will be too and what sort of deal will be available on the FF4.

Jay A. Kelley said:
Arri is going to offer this deal ONLY ONCE. It will not come this way again.
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:sarcasm: uh, huh.... :sarcasm: I do have to pick a nit here. I've seen deals on ARRI gear before and I know we'll see them again. This exact deal may be a one-time, exclusive offer, but I just don't want anyone to feel pressured to buy into this if they are unsure.

Purchase timing is going to be a huge factor for myself and I'm sure many others.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Thank you for putting this together, Jay! It's looking like it could be a good deal. I'm very eager to see what the purchase window will be too and what sort of deal will be available on the FF4.



:sarcasm: uh, huh.... :sarcasm: I do have to pick a nit here. I've seen deals on ARRI gear before and I know we'll see them again. This exact deal may be a one-time, exclusive offer, but I just don't want anyone to feel pressured to buy into this if they are unsure.

Purchase timing is going to be a huge factor for myself and I'm sure many others.
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Jeff,

I think you better believe them. This deal went in a few directions that ARRI really did not want it to go (David can back me up on this). They are going forward and honoring this deal in order to "keep the peace" and to get a lot of REDUsers on board. But I have been connected to this long enough to be able to tell you that this deal is not coming to us without a little pain. As RED likes to say, anything can change, but if I were you, I plan on jumping on this train before Dec 10th (The deadline). If my ARRI guy gets his way, this deal will not come back in his lifetime.

I am not a saleman here.. Just giving you my opinion.
 
Jay A. Kelley said:
Follow Focus Information:

When you purchase the FF-4. Your 19mm or 15mm mount adapter is FREE.
This is over a $600.00 value.

Jay
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What is the total price on the FF-4?

I'm assuming the FF-4 comes with a native 15mm w/ 100mm studio configuration?

If so, that means we would be able to choose between a 15mm w/ 60mm spacing adapter or a 19mm w/ 104mm spacing adapter?
 
Jay A. Kelley said:
If my ARRI guy gets his way, this deal will not come back in his lifetime.
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I'm not saying it's not true, but I've heard similar lines from car salesmen as well. Pressure for sales is pressure for sales no matter how honest and forthright it seems. I think I'm going to wait to see what Curt and RED have in store and in that way not feel pressured into a sale, even though I'd like the ARRI. My feeling is there will be some very affordable good tools available soon. I just hate feeling pressured by a deadline for a sale that will "not come back in his lifetime".
 
Hi Jay,

If it's not too much trouble, could you list the corresponding Arri part number for each item, so we can be clear about what all is included in the "package" – especially the "MB20 II two tray"? I assume it's what Arri lists as their standard mattebox "kit" (Basic module + 2 filter stage + Back 138mm belows adapter + swing away module + Console for lightweight support) everything else is considered optional by Arri. And what diameter is the light trap? Or can you order whatever?

Also can you give us the pricing on the FF4 and what's included (part numbers).

This appears to be a better deal than I was getting on other quotes.

Here's the link to the Arri Configuration guide:
http://www.arri.com/prod/cam/configuration_overview/manuals/pdfs/CO_671_2006_11_MB-20_II.pdf

Thanks!
 
Jay A. Kelley said:
I think you better believe them. This deal went in a few directions that ARRI really did not want it to go (David can back me up on this). They are going forward and honoring this deal in order to "keep the peace" and to get a lot of REDUsers on board.
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Oh, I don't doubt this is a special deal and the odds of it repeating are very slim. I was just saying that I don't want to see anyone feel pressured by that. I have seen discounts and specials on ARRI gear before, but it is very rare. Coincides with blue moons and other rare celestial events...

I'm tempted to jump on the bandwagon here because I know what I'm getting and it's all fine and great and I could move on with my life. OTOH, there are so many things I'd like to augment my RED kit with, I'm having a hard time swallowing about $9K for a mattebox and follow focus. Ah, what to do...
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Ah, what to do...
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Hi Jeff

I have spent a lot of time on the phone and over e-mails discussing pro's/con's and most everything mattebox and remote follow focus with CVB. Curt is very talented and smart to boot. I have no doubt his matte box and focus system will shake up all the competition with it's quality, features and price. The only real question is when? I sure hope it is soon but he has been quite quiet around here for a while now. For people that have the patience and the time to wait I can see it being well worth their while.
 
Finner said:
Hi Jeff

I have spent a lot of time on the phone and over e-mails discussing pro's/con's and most everything mattebox and remote follow focus with CVB. Curt is very talented and smart to boot. I have no doubt his matte box and focus system will shake up all the competition with it's quality, features and price. The only real question is when? I sure hope it is soon but he has been quite quiet around here for a while now. For people that have the patience and the time to wait I can see it being well worth their while.
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Damn you Darren, I'm soo close to going for the Arri gear, but I do trust CVB and RED's colabo........

Not to mention I'd save a pretty penny I'm sure.

Well hey, I was looking to plop down about 25k on MB, FF, Field Monitor, MacBook, maybe now I'll reconsider that route and go for;

O'Connor 2060 w/ sticks - around $9,500
Marshall V-R231P-AFHDPG 23" HD LCD Monitor - $5,400
8 Core Mac system with 30" Apple display - around $10,000

Decisions, decisions.
 
I would trust CVB anytime as well. The price/quality factor will be no doubt better than rest. But does anyone know how far are we in getting it from CVB


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For 6 Hours Red#1775 was mine, Then THEYtook it back
 
Jay A. Kelley said:
As for warrenty: This is an ARRI product, it will be covered by any ARRI dealer no matter where you are. If you have a problem, there will be a number to call.....
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Jay,

You know it concerns me how the warranty support will be outside the US.

How will Eric handle this?

I'm not talking about taking your Arri kit on a production overseas, it breaks and they fix it under warranty.

I'm talking your local Arri rep knows you, knows you didn't buy it from his region (serial #) and you ask him to fix/give replacement under warranty.

My concern is any Arri dealer other than Arri Inc will be pissed for a couple of reasons.
Firstly, warranty is worth something ($$) to these guys as extra kit/labour is required to support this new kit.
Next, they missed the sale so now you're asking them to fix it...cos Eric said so!! I hope when Eric says he'll make it happen he will, however I need to know how and don't want to see some return to the US and we'll fix it for free deal!

So what's the deal?

Don't mean to give you a hard time cos I think you're done a fantastic job here but feel it important everyone knows exactly what the warranty arrangements will be.

Cheers,
 
david farland said:
Jay,

You know it concerns me how the warranty support will be outside the US.

How will Eric handle this?

I'm not talking about taking your Arri kit on a production overseas, it breaks and they fix it under warranty.

I'm talking your local Arri rep knows you, knows you didn't buy it from his region (serial #) and you ask him to fix/give replacement under warranty.

My concern is any Arri dealer other than Arri Inc will be pissed for a couple of reasons.
Firstly, warranty is worth something ($$) to these guys as extra kit/labour is required to support this new kit.
Next, they missed the sale so now you're asking them to fix it...cos Eric said so!! I hope when Eric says he'll make it happen he will, however I need to know how and don't want to see some return to the US and we'll fix it for free deal!

So what's the deal?

Don't mean to give you a hard time cos I think you're done a fantastic job here but feel it important everyone knows exactly what the warranty arrangements will be.

Cheers,
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It's cool David,

You've been a big help behind the scenes. Tell you what, I am going to send your Post to Eric, and ask him to write back a response I can post on here.. Perhaps that will be the ultimate fix!

Jay
 
How To Buy

How To Buy

This will be pretty straightforward.

The first thing I will need to do it get a list of people who are DAMN SURE that want in on this deal.. This means, when it comes time to put in your order, ONLY SEND IT IN IF YOU KNOW KNOW KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT.

I'll give an E-mail address for you to send the order too.
IMPORTANT: THIS IS NOT YOUR ACTUAL ORDER. It's just a way for me to insure we have enough numbers before we move this to the next step.

THE ACTUAL ORDER DEADLINE IS DEC 10th

Once I have enough orders, then I will give you all the name, phone number, and E-mail of our vendor. I will also get together a basic recommendation package, part numbers, etc for you so you know what to ask for.

Then you contact the vendor, place your order and DONE!

You have to buy the core MB-20II mattebox. You can change or swap any thing else you wish at this point. Just remember, your top flag, 15mm or 19mm adaptor, and 138mm filter ring are coming free. That will not change. (I made sure to get you parts you HAVE to have.. Not parts you don't need).

As for the follow Focus 4. Same deal.. Order extra wheels, or more marking discs... Whatever.. But the adaptor will come free.

It should be a very simple thing.

That E-mail address will come along shortly. I am getting some demo units so I can show you all some things.

Jay
 
E-mail Address For Orders

E-mail Address For Orders

ok guys here we go.

Send the following information:

Name
E-Mail address
Phone Number
City State

# of MB-20II Matteboxes you want
# of Follow Focus 4 units you want

That's it. I DO NOT NEED A PARTS BREAKDOWN.

I just need to know the amount of basic packages you are ordering.

Don't write if you are not SURE you are going to do this. We need an accurate count.

Here's the address to write too:

dreamwelder@yahoo.com

I'll get things together on this end.

Jay
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How much is a FF4 then? Maybe I'm blind but I cannot seem to find a price for it.

Paul
 
Finner said:
I have spent a lot of time on the phone and over e-mails discussing pro's/con's and most everything mattebox and remote follow focus with CVB. Curt is very talented and smart to boot. I have no doubt his matte box and focus system will shake up all the competition with it's quality, features and price. The only real question is when? I sure hope it is soon but he has been quite quiet around here for a while now. For people that have the patience and the time to wait I can see it being well worth their while.
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Yep... And this is the whole basis to my hesitation. That and the new offerings from Vocas look excellent as well and are also significantly cheaper. I'm still thinking this over... Probably thinking about it way more than I should.
 
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