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Group purchase of Arri Matteboxes

4X4 filters are fine on all the primes except 10-14mm..the majority of my filters are 4X4.
The only problem is if you need to rotate the filter (grads, etc), then 4X4 is a bit limiting. I dont own any filters larger than 4X5.65, I usually just rent what I need with the package if I need larger filters for zooms or wa glass.

The main reason I prefer the MB20 is because I dont have any 6x6 filters...they are both great choices though.
 
It's not unusual to get vignette from the 18mm. If your using the MB16 (or 20? don't know so much about the 20 though) and your having 1 or sometimes 2 filter, it's possible to "push" the mattebox back to the glass of the lens, but not always. When that happen you usually end up taping the filters onto the lens. I do it all the time since I tend to use quite a lot of filter. Now with RED being 320 asa and all I can easily see situations were I use several ND's to get the aperture to a nice DOF. On top of that it's possible that I might use grads and maybe a color filter (I know what your going to say - Do that in post! but I'm old school that way). So I can easily see myself having 4 filter if not more, needing bigger mattebox, that plus the fact that I will have lenses that need the MB14. As for the MB 14, it is bigger, substantially so. The mattebox itself is not the worst, it's the filters. They're big and heavy (especially together) but hey if you want a nice picture you might as well work out a little for it.
 
they're still quoting on it.
Just under $A8K for a FF3 with 2 speed knob, extension, speed handle and a couple of gears.
 
When Jay posts his deal (on his guys return) I'll be posting a similiar priced deal for aussi's that don't want a grey warranty arrangement from buying overseas. Knowing what the other was prepared to offer seems to have worked well


cheers,

ps: FF3 takes 2 speed knob as standard, FF4 you can have 2 speed as option.
 
Thoughs

Thoughs

For the record, I do not have any information about this deal being a grey market situation at this point. I have been told how our Arri contact will service the equipment you buy, but I have NOT been told how they will NOT service the equipment you buy.

To be honest, I have not asked that much or demanded it in writing as of yet. Why? Well, put simply there was not a deal that blew up my skirt enough to move on to the warrenty situation yet. I need to know core of the deal we have is a winner before I start dealing with the additional issues.

I am not wild about how long Arri has taken to get this together. I know people have committments, but this is not rocket science. I sent a proposal, and all we need is a "yes" or "no". That said, if our contact has been working all this time in our best interests, then I am happy to wait. I'll reserve final judgement on all this once I see the "RESULTS" of the wait.

I aplolgize for being so hush-hush about the deal (And I am grateful to David for honoring that decision by holding on his until I release mine) but I know REDUsers since I am one. Once I post this thing, it HAS to be good and final. Lots of changes will be a nightmare and not worth anyone's time.

I am sure that, for some, this deal will make a lot of sense, and for others it will not be good enough. We'll need 20 MB-20IIs to get the pricing. A lot of you have asked about other Matteboxes... Once again.. We need the core deal in place before I want to move onto other issues. However based on current response, we have more than enough parts to move forward.

This deal is NOTHING like Steve Tammi's O'Connor buy.. There are a buttload of pieces that must be dealt with. I am happy to do it. I love this community and it's because of how we all stick together that makes stuff like this possible.

Jay
 
Jay,

Steve's O'connor deal was simply that we all got one dedicated sales person to contact and inform with what we individually needed. That person would then take the order in full and decide the "size" of it and come up with an overall discount. Wouldn't that be a good solution in this case as well? For example if I need equipment for 20K. Well wouldn't that just "help" in the total order or am I completely lost here?

fred
 
And have you totally disregarded me without asking since your saying that you have an order for 20 20MB's. I know I have distressed my need for MB 14's but I have not said I wouldn't go for a 20MB. I've just said I'm not familiar with it and need to know more. I have sent you a PM letting you know my interest and I have of course been posting on this thread but you have still not answered me. In you saying you have an order means that I've been lost in translation somewhere on the line?

fred
 
Fred, forgive me for interfering...
But all of your questions have been answered by Jay already - nothing seems lost in translation. (take the time and read Jays posts carefully)

Jay is just a guy, spending his time so that we all can get a (hopefully) great deal, he is not getting paid - so let´s give him a break.

Jay says, the numbers will be here in a few days, and that any discussion on related items can be made then, just chill and wait it out - it will hopefully be worth it!

Thanks again for the initiative Jay!
 
Jay & Eirik,


Your absolutely right I have misunderstood as I skimmed through Jay's post I interpreted it as if there already was 20 orders not that that was what is needed as a minimum. I apologies and want to say that if my posts seemed, in any way, harshly critical to what your actually doing Jay it wasn't meant to be. It was only distressing my concerns of being worried that I would maybe not be able to catch this train so to speak.


fred
 
I am new to reduser.net, and I see a lot of converstaion here regarding purchases of matte boxes. I understand that posting of equipment for sale on Reduser.net is done in the Jobs / Equipment for Hire Forum: If you look there you will find some equipment I have just put up for sale that may be what you're looking for.
Best,
Eric Trageser
trageser1@mac.com
 
Arri Responds - See Info!!!

Arri Responds - See Info!!!

This has been a major thing. I will try to keep it simple. Ok let's look at the deal first. This will ONLY apply to a MB-20II.

Here is the basic package you would buy:

Filter Frame 4x5.65 229.88
MB-20II Two Tray 3436.59
Side Flags 506.98
Filter Tray Combo 261.95
138mm Filter Ring 285.12
MB-20II Top Flag 213.84
19mm Adaptor 301.16
Light Trap 63.26

If you purchase this package you would pay around $5298.78 (Street Price).
Under Arri's deal, you would get the following FREE:
MB-20II Top Flag $213.00
19 or 15mm Adaptor $301.16
138mm Filter Ring $285.12

This comes out to a discount of $800.12.
You actual cost on the Mattebox would be $4,498.66

Some quick points:
You CANNOT change the items Arri is giving away with this deal.

This deal applies ONLY to the MB-20II and 20 units MUST be ordered for the deal to take effect.

Arri is going to offer this deal ONLY ONCE. It will not come this way again.

As for warrenty: This is an ARRI product, it will be covered by any ARRI dealer no matter where you are. If you have a problem, there will be a number to call.

Ok that's the basic deal as it stands.

Pricing on the package may still yet go down a little, but I do not expect a HUGE drop from what you see here (Maybe $50 - $100 less).

I have a pretty sweet deal on the Follow Focus 4 as well.. Will post that later.

So we're doing well. I will let you all know how we will go about ordering soon

Jay

For those of you who wanted a different Mattebox.. I cannot combine them into this deal.. I am very sorry.. I did try hard. ARRI says they will try to work with you as best they can
 
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