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GROUP BUY - SQUARE BOUNCE REFLECTOR

Definitley not worth the $ for the quality.. Got mine today.. Love the idea of what it does, just noticing stitching is done poorly.
 
Some type of shipping error on the part of the USPS caused my order to be sent back to Hong Kong. I didn't want to wait again for it to be reshipped so I cancelled my order and requested a refund, which Lyon promptly did.

Kudos to them for that.
 
uh oh! One broke on the 1st day.

uh oh! One broke on the 1st day.

Damn! I spoke too soon.

Wanting to put my new toys away at the end of the day, I tried to collapse them and put them back in their case.

One of them stuck out of the case a few inches, and there was some play in the handle of the other, so I figured it would collapse a few inches.

It never did, but while looking at the one that did collapse, to see what was different, the handle on the one that did collapse popped right off the end.

It was apparently hot-glued in place, as a few small pieces of hot glue came out and one is rattling around inside.

Never got the other one to collapse, and it won't fit into the case so that I can close the end of the case.

disclaimer: I've actually operated an umbrella before, and my $5 auto extend Walmart umbrella has lasted maybe 50 cycles of extend an collapse while at the mercy of my clumsy hands.

With the handle on that flimsily, certainly don't count on holding it in any slight breeze outdoors or applying any pressure at all while collapsing it.

Hopefully the manufacturer will chime in with a solution?
 
Les C. said:
Damn! I spoke too soon.

Wanting to put my new toys away at the end of the day, I tried to collapse them and put them back in their case.

One of them stuck out of the case a few inches, and there was some play in the handle of the other, so I figured it would collapse a few inches.

It never did, but while looking at the one that did collapse, to see what was different, the handle on the one that did collapse popped right off the end.

It was apparently hot-glued in place, as a few small pieces of hot glue came out and one is rattling around inside.

Never got the other one to collapse, and it won't fit into the case so that I can close the end of the case.

disclaimer: I've actually operated an umbrella before, and my $5 auto extend Walmart umbrella has lasted maybe 50 cycles of extend an collapse while at the mercy of my clumsy hands.

With the handle on that flimsily, certainly don't count on holding it in any slight breeze outdoors or applying any pressure at all while collapsing it.

Hopefully the manufacturer will chime in with a solution?
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Solution:

Head to Walmart and purchase a hot glue gun. hahaha sorry not funny.

Anyways, thats too bad the quality sucks. This product had so much potential but I dont think I would consider this product in the future. At least the round 5 in 1 reflectors dont fall apart so easily and they are less than 1/8th the cost.

If they decide to beef up the product and build it to last, then they will have a customer. But paying $189 for a umbrella reflector that comes with brown spots, won't collapse, and has handles falling off because they are glued on is a waste. $189 sounds ridiculous for something made with such poor build quality.
 
Bill Pugliano said:
Some type of shipping error on the part of the USPS caused my order to be sent back to Hong Kong. I didn't want to wait again for it to be reshipped so I cancelled my order and requested a refund, which Lyon promptly did.

Kudos to them for that.
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Same here, was shipping in Rome, and got a prompt email saying wrong address, which of course is not, but resent the info accordingly to how they needed, lets see if I get it now... ;)
 
KETCH ROSSi said:
Same here, was shipping in Rome, and got a prompt email saying wrong address, which of course is not, but resent the info accordingly to how they needed, lets see if I get it now... ;)
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Same here!!!
Weird, as Ketch I'm suspicious.
Anyway, you guys scared me about the quality build.
Just a question, did they change the way they build those umbrella between the NAB and the group buy?
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Brice Ansel said:
Just a question, did they change the way they build those umbrella between the NAB and the group buy?
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I hope not... I hate bait & switch and this kinda operation may be subject to a lawsuit by customers for false advertising.

Is there anyone can arrange side by side comparison with Group-Buy unit vs. NAB unit please?
 
I got mine today... its absolutely crap! They looked 2nd hand! I think this red user deal got NAB demos or defectives!!! Tons of stains and the reflective fabric is really thin and can be pierced easily! I Agree with the other people here, its sub par and wont last long in the field. I ordered two and now wish I hadn't. Amazing idea... hope someone makes a better one soon as I would not recommend this one.
 
KETCH ROSSi said:
Well, I need to come out and say this, which is that for the price I sure was not expecting any quality to the product, other then just the idea and he concept, all my Umbrellas, the good ones cost 4 to 5 times, and even up and over 10 times this one.
As they say, you get what Pay for.
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I hear you there.
But I don't think people were aspecting a second hand product with spots on it either.
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Brice Ansel said:
I hear you there.
But I don't think people were aspecting a second hand product with spots on it either.
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Definitely not, an if this was to be the caae my review would be very NEGATIVE and unforgiven, a cheaply built product is one thing, sending a used or stained material is an other.
 
KETCH ROSSi said:
Definitely not, an if this was to be the caae my review would be very NEGATIVE and unforgiven, a cheaply built product is one thing, sending a used or stained material is an other.
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Hé hé,
wait and see what you'll receive.
Make sure someone take a photo of your face reaction while discovering your pourchase. ;)
I'm laughing now but it's not funny just a nervous reaction.
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The odd brown staining on these reflectors sounds like the factory workers took a group crap over the reduser inventory...

Life lesson learned: You DO get exactly what you pay for.
 
No brown stains on mine. There were some slight burs on the steel rod inside that goes all the way up, but ... that didn't seem to cause any issues at all with opening or closing.

Design is extremely light, have no idea how it will hold up thru several open and closes.

But, other than the handle coming off, it's not a bad unit or bad design.

I'd just like to see the results of 100 open/closes - if the fabric holds, etc.

But, I'm not about to try that.

I got a prompt email from the manufacturer when I reported my problem.

My hope is that they will resolve this. It's just a manufacturing glitch, and they may need to change how the handles are attached.

If you are a pioneer and are the first to buy a new product, you have to expect a few arrows in the back.

As long as they work to resolve any issues, no real harm done.
 
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