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Great Alternative...P + S Technik 35Digital Lenses

Filmaker's talking about that RP lens guy, I ripped him a new one a few months ago for trying to pimp his horrendiously overpriced "Prime sets" here.
All he's doing is buying used Nikkors and attaching step rings and follow focus gears to make them look more cine, then charge a hefty premium. I'm all for a free market but this guy is ripping people off, at least the P+S modification is a modification, possibly with the benefit of collimation but certainly better witness marks, the RP lens sets are just standard Nikors wih nome machined aluminum slapped on. I think I offered this before, if you really want a set of good Nikkors and just can't bear to find them yourself I'll gladly take your money and put together a much better condition, better matched, faster set than this guy is selling for about $1000 cheaper. It's not rocket science, it's E-bay. Anyone interested?
 
Sorry I'm on a rant...:ranting2:
In completed items on Ebay I've found these examples of AI/S Nikkors:
20mm f2.8 $232
28mm f2.0 $323
35mm f1.4 $293
50mm f1.4 $99
85mm f1.4 $482
Red rock gears $300
Step up rings $60
Grand total $1789

So even if I charged $1000 premium for all this I could still beat RP lens by $461 while delivereing one more wide lens and faster 35,50 & 85mm lenses. So I hope you get why I think this guy's a shill.

OK rant over.:angry02:
 
Evin Grant said:
So even if I charged $1000 premium for all this I could still beat RP lens by $461 while delivereing one more wide lens and faster 35,50 & 85mm lenses. So I hope you get why I think this guy's a shill.

OK rant over.:angry02:
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Evin,

I really appreciate your feedback. I'm sure a many of us would be making mistakes and wasting a lot of money without your advice.

I do have one more question if you don't mind.

I found a thread on another site that talks about how it might be possible to make an adapter to fit a PL mount lens on a Nikon camera.

The reason for this is that the PL focal plane is longer than the Nikon focal plane. Therefore, it might be theoretically possible to "fit" an adapter between a PL lens and a Nikon camera body.

Following that logic, if such an adapter could be machined, Red users could order their Red Ones with the Nikon mount, use Nikon lenses most of the time, and throw the adapter on when they need to rent a more expensive PL lens for a particular shoot.

I could be off here, that's why I ask. What do you think?

-Thor Wixom
 
It's not the flange focal depth that's the problem it's the throat. The throat on PL is too wide, it won't fit in the F mounts innner diameter, and even if you could the PL (Positive Lock) mount is designed to hold much more weight than the Nikon F, so I would only use primes or maybe the Red 18-50mm. But this doesn't matter becasue the Nikon F mounts FFD is 46.5mm and PL is 52mm that leaves only 5.5mm for the adapter, as well the Nikon has a 44mm throat that would have to accomadate a 52mm PL mount. Sorry.
 
Evin,

Thanks again. It's humbling to have shot for so long on fixed lens cameras and then feel like such a newb moving to the Red One.

Your knowledge and patience have been helpful in the transition and are greatly appreciated.

-Thor
 
What's the point, the PL mount is standard/free right?

What's the point, the PL mount is standard/free right?

Thor Wixom said:
Evin,

Following that logic, if such an adapter could be machined, Red users could order their Red Ones with the Nikon mount, use Nikon lenses most of the time, and throw the adapter on when they need to rent a more expensive PL lens for a particular shoot.
-Thor Wixom
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What's the point, the PL mount is standard/free right? We don't get a discount if we leave the PL off do we? did I miss something?
 
AquaVideoRed206 said:
What's the point, the PL mount is standard/free right? We don't get a discount if we leave the PL off do we? did I miss something?
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Hi,

I think it would be good if Red offered 1 lens mount of choice included with the Red one, collimated at the factory.

Stephen
 
AquaVideoRed206 said:
What's the point, the PL mount is standard/free right? We don't get a discount if we leave the PL off do we? did I miss something?
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The point was to be able to swap PL mount and Nikon mount lenses quickly. Since it will be (presumably) difficult to swap the PL and Nikon mounts on the camera, and it is not possible to put PL mounts on Nikon lenses because Nikon has a shorter focal plane, my thought was to make an adapter to put PL lenses in a Nikon camera mount.

Order the Red One with the Nikon mount, get an adapter for PL lenses, and suddenly you don't have to commit to one lens format or the other. You end up with the best of both worlds.

But apparently, it is not feasible.

This does lead me to some other questions, though.

1. If Oliver Wood had Arri modify Nikon lenses for the Bourne Ultimatum, then wouldn't it be technically possible to put PL mounts on Nikon lenses, even if some special modifications had to be done to the lenses themselves?

2. Is it possible to put Nikon mounts on PL lenses, thus skipping the need for an adapter, and making it possible to quickly swap between high end cinema glass and still lenses? This is assuming of course that I would own (not rent) the PL lenses that would be modified.

Evin?

-Thor Wixom
 
Thor Wixom said:
1. If Oliver Wood had Arri modify Nikon lenses for the Bourne Ultimatum, then wouldn't it be technically possible to put PL mounts on Nikon lenses, even if some special modifications had to be done to the lenses themselves?

2. Is it possible to put Nikon mounts on PL lenses, thus skipping the need for an adapter, and making it possible to quickly swap between high end cinema glass and still lenses? This is assuming of course that I would own (not rent) the PL lenses that would be modified.

Evin?

-Thor Wixom
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Hi,

Read Arri Modified = Very Expensive

Many PL lenses are too wide to fit in a Nikon mount, if an adapter could be easily made, believe me it would have been done.

Stephen
 
Stephen Williams said:
Hi,

Read Arri Modified = Very Expensive

Many PL lenses are too wide to fit in a Nikon mount, if an adapter could be easily made, believe me it would have been done.

Stephen
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I suppose at that point it just makes sense to purchase the Red lenses. Now the question is availability since I didn't get reservations on any of the lenses.

-Thor
 
Thor Wixom said:
I suppose at that point it just makes sense to purchase the Red lenses. Now the question is availability since I didn't get reservations on any of the lenses.

-Thor
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Hi,

Probably a much cheaper option.

Stephen
 
amusing.. see you as red lenses vendor, stephen..
 
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