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G-Technology G-SPEED STUDIO XL 8 bay raid?

KETCH ROSSi said:
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Cool thanks Kentch, will give him a ring sometime this week.
 
The enclosure is nothing special, what your investing in is the hard drives. In this case sata 7200 drives which, well they suck. SSD is the only way to go in my opinion, they will last much longer and are obviously much faster, and way more reliable but I do understand their more expensive and smaller in data size.

So I doubt the G-drive does 1300 Mb/s in real world, probably more like 950Mb/s.

You wont get as much backup space but, if you can afford it, buy an SSD array. If not, I'd buy a smaller SSD array, and us it as a scratch disk, add a cheap slow sata backup array for holding your content when not editing. This way at least you are investing in a newer technology, that fits 3.5" drives, that will be faster, more reliable, and last much longer. Then hold out on massive TByte arrays till SSDs get cheaper for us all.

P.S. If you really want this sata system, you can build the same thing for about $3000 if you part it out.
 
What you're paying for with RAIDs is the controller and the connection type. At Babs Do Productions, we currently use a ProAvio 8-drive setup with WD Black 1TB drives and we plan to up it to 2TB drives for long term storage. If we were looking for performance, we might do the same setup with the newer version of our tower and use 2TB Samsung SSD's which would be more than fast enough for whatever we do. There's definitely better and faster storage solutions out there but it all depends on your budget. Just looking now, the Pro Samsung 2TB drives show up in the $800-1,000 range so that's a little more than I'd like to spend for filling out a desktop SSD RAID setup but 1TB SSD drives aren't bad price-wise if I just wanted the speed boost. Then again, 2TB and even 4TB drives WD Black drives are pretty cheap by comparison and that's a nice storage boost so it just depends what you're going after. In terms of 4K, we would love to have the G-Technology RAID enclosure you mention but practically speaking, our ProAvio 8TB SATA RAID does just fine as it is with whatever we've thrown at it.
 
Larry Jordan reviewed the G-Speed Studio awhile back and gave it a positive review:

https://larryjordan.com/articles/product-review-g-technology-g-speed-studio-raid/

I think the real-world speeds are less than what they quote, but it's still a very fast system. I use the G-Tech RAIDs myself and have been fine with them. There are cheaper solutions out there, but it's hard to beat $5K for 48TB of fast storage. Note that this system is Thunderbolt only, so your choice of I/O is limited with this brand. But with Mac & Windows systems that are built for Thunderbolt, it can work very well.
 
I generally find the real world speeds circa 10-20% less than advertised to account for overhead, fragmentation and data type. And after 4 or 5 drives, overall speed becomes less linear. But obviously for safety reasons and redundancy, the same rules apply.
 
I have a 64 TB G Speed Studio XL hooked up to a Mac Pro (trashcan) that is fully maxed out with 12-cores, 64GB of RAM. The purpose was that I am editing a feature with many terabytes of RED RAW footage, pretty much 90% of it. I wanted at least two copies of everything so essentially I setup a RAID 50 I think (I have it in my notes) because when speaking to a technician, this was the best way to get redundancy and performance. Until speaking with them, I didn't know about all of the RAID formats except RAID 0 and 1. The benefit of this RAID 50 (or 60, cant remember which one) is it will still be operational if up to two of the eight drives fail.

They had a pretty easy application to set it up but they said it would take something like 2 hours per terabyte on the drive for it to format, essentially 128 hours, and you have to leave it on continuously while that was happening. So by the third day, my monitor was not powering on. (NOTE: everything including the MAC, monitor, and drive were ONLY two weeks old) So I took the monitor to Micro Center which is where I purchased it from and bough a whole new monitor, different brand, and took it home and it still didn't work. Finally on around the fifth day after talking to the G Speed technician who was a total clown because he didn't want to believe their product was faulty, I took everything into Micro Center, computer and all. Essentially what we found out is when I setup the RAID on the G Speed, it was sucking the power sources from the Mac not allowing the monitor to work. Oddly enough, when I booted the drive up at the counter in the store, it said the RAID set up was complete. I didn't trust it, but had a project to do, so I took it home and while waiting on a replacement didn't experience problems ever since.

I ended up keeping it because I could not afford to wait another week for this thing to format. So I have had it a couple months no problems. The speed for copying to the drive is really fast because it uses Thunderbolt ports. I have one situation where the drive had red light on because I think it was over heating, but the environment it was in was also very warm, so I solved that and it didn't mess anything up. My advice, get it from a place that has an extended warranty or at least a good return period. I would also recommend having a reputable company set this RAID up for you, that way you can monitor if it has any problems.
 
C. Phillips said:
I have a 64 TB G Speed Studio XL hooked up to a Mac Pro (trashcan) that is fully maxed out with 12-cores, 64GB of RAM. The purpose was that I am editing a feature with many terabytes of RED RAW footage, pretty much 90% of it. I wanted at least two copies of everything so essentially I setup a RAID 50 I think (I have it in my notes) because when speaking to a technician, this was the best way to get redundancy and performance. Until speaking with them, I didn't know about all of the RAID formats except RAID 0 and 1. The benefit of this RAID 50 (or 60, cant remember which one) is it will still be operational if up to two of the eight drives fail.

They had a pretty easy application to set it up but they said it would take something like 2 hours per terabyte on the drive for it to format, essentially 128 hours, and you have to leave it on continuously while that was happening. So by the third day, my monitor was not powering on. (NOTE: everything including the MAC, monitor, and drive were ONLY two weeks old) So I took the monitor to Micro Center which is where I purchased it from and bough a whole new monitor, different brand, and took it home and it still didn't work. Finally on around the fifth day after talking to the G Speed technician who was a total clown because he didn't want to believe their product was faulty, I took everything into Micro Center, computer and all. Essentially what we found out is when I setup the RAID on the G Speed, it was sucking the power sources from the Mac not allowing the monitor to work. Oddly enough, when I booted the drive up at the counter in the store, it said the RAID set up was complete. I didn't trust it, but had a project to do, so I took it home and while waiting on a replacement didn't experience problems ever since.

I ended up keeping it because I could not afford to wait another week for this thing to format. So I have had it a couple months no problems. The speed for copying to the drive is really fast because it uses Thunderbolt ports. I have one situation where the drive had red light on because I think it was over heating, but the environment it was in was also very warm, so I solved that and it didn't mess anything up. My advice, get it from a place that has an extended warranty or at least a good return period. I would also recommend having a reputable company set this RAID up for you, that way you can monitor if it has any problems.
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What is the disk speed your getting off of it?
 
I have the 48TB Thunderbolt 2 version and the black magic disk sweet test benchmarked it at 1220 - 1297 Mb/s after running it multiple times. That of course was plugged directly to a Mac Pro not going through the network.
 
Carlos Quintero said:
I have the 48TB Thunderbolt 2 version and the black magic disk sweet test benchmarked it at 1220 - 1297 Mb/s after running it multiple times. That of course was plugged directly to a Mac Pro not going through the network.
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Wow nice!, thats surprising. I thought after 4 drives you would get diminishing returns towards speed increases.
 
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