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Full-frontal insidious attack on Red, by indie director Rian Johnson (2008)

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Yes his blog got some blood pumping..(no doubt exactly what Rian was hoping for)
So....We just just finished a round table podcast on REDCENTRE on the subject...

Myself & Mike Seymour from FXGuide, John Flowers (from life zero podcast) & Stu Machwitz from the Orphanage and his excellent ProLost.com blog
I must say it was a great conversation covering ALL the plusses & Minuses of RED from all angles.. and of course discussing Rians RED Facts Blog entry.

And of course we invited Rian to be involved a few times but did not respond
would have been great to hear his side of the story but i think we covered all sides of the fence with this episode

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Despite the heated and mostly unnecessary attacks against Rian Johnson, I'd say this has been one of the more educational threads I've read. Thanks to Graeme and everyone who has contributed.
 
The original "article" appeared on #r3D twitter feed yesterday, and new people found it, and were directed to this thread for discussion on the subject, specifically my words addressing and rebutting the issues.

Graeme
 
I had a hard time with Brick, although I really liked the idea...I just couldn't get along with it. I think I just didn't like Lukas Haas as the Pin and the rest kind of fell away for me.
 
Graeme Nattress said:
The original "article" appeared on #r3D twitter feed yesterday, and new people found it, and were directed to this thread for discussion on the subject, specifically my words addressing and rebutting the issues.

Graeme
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I see Grame ;)

Tom Baurain said:
Yikes. Color me embarassed. Been a long time since I had a "forum foul."
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hehe
 
2008 old news man. '

Brick was great', 'brothers bloom' was boring, 'fly' was one of the best of the season.
 
I loved Brick, very creative film made for next to nothing. Hell, I own it on DVD so I guess that's saying something.

I was a little surprised to read his comments since he comes from an indi background but then I saw the date. Back in 2008, a lot of people misunderstood Red. I am willing to bet his opinion has changed since then, especially with a bunch of top tier projects shooting on the camera. Or maybe not, some love to hate Red and nothing you say or show them will change their minds.
 
Yikes, zombie thread!

I don't even recall the specifics of that article or whatever. I glanced through the first pages of this thread and see that some of the info still holds true today -- best results come from a properly handled R3D post pipeline, etc.. Some of the info is definitely outdated though. It's over 2 years old.

So that said, anyone who reads through here looking for advice or technical info should do so with a bit of caution.
 
The guy got what he wanted -- a rise out of a lot of people. Giving any credence or seriousness is, well, as so eloquently put previously "everyone has one..." Bull is bull. One trick ponys are a dime a dozen. Okay, maybe two dimes these days.
 
Wow, a lot has happened in those two years huh? Rian is a film guy. Probably going to be hard to convince him that RED holds up on the big screen or in the DI suite because I'm not sure he even likes DIs to begin with. He's old school. Really, it comes down to his aesthetics and apparently they don't match up well with RED footage. Some of his claims have been a bit off the wall, others more subjective. I say let him be, as RED no longer has to go as far to defend itself these days. We are able to go to our local movie theater and check out the results on the big screen for ourselves. TSN looked pretty good to me. Pirates, The Hobbit, and a lot of other RED films will continue to stream into theaters, along with movies shot on Alexa, 35mm, Genesis, F35, etc. At this point, I think it's safe to say RED is fending for itself rather nicely and one article probably isn't enough to derail it when there's enough industry acceptance to get big projects greenlit.

I wish Rian nothing but the best in terms of producing compelling entertainment. I'm much more interested in that than I am in hearing him talk about RED.
 
Oooops.. I thought I did close this thread. Done.

Sorry guys, this was a fun trip down memory lane, but it's over.
 
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