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For your consideration-the best cinematography

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I've just got the latest issue online of The American Cinematographer (December 2011)

and found out one very interesting thing:

There is no a single movie shot on RED ONE MX or Epic that was on the list

"For your consideration-The Best Cinematography"

that is actually a sort of recommendation for an achievement submitted for Academy Awards consideration.

Please correct me if I'm wrong here!!!

The Academy Awards ceremony will take place on Sunday, February 26, 2012, at the Kodak Theatre at Hollywood & Highland Center.

It's a scary thing!!!

I'm concerned and worry about that situation.

Tell me what you think?
 
Sanjin,

Gordon Willis was not even nominated for an Oscar for any of the Godfather films. He was not nominated for Annie Hall or Manhattan. He finally received an "honorary" Oscar. Caleb Deschanel was not nominated for The Black Stallion. In a year in which Terry Gilliam's Brazil was up for production design, Ghandi won. I've learned not to pay too much attention to the Academy.

Tim Eaton
 
Also noticed that in this month's AC.

Forget the Oscars. Cannes, Berlin and Venice is where it's at. :)
 
Timothy Eaton said:
Sanjin,

Gordon Willis was not even nominated for an Oscar for any of the Godfather films. He was not nominated for Annie Hall or Manhattan. He finally received an "honorary" Oscar. Caleb Deschanel was not nominated for The Black Stallion. In a year in which Terry Gilliam's Brazil was up for production design, Ghandi won. I've learned not to pay too much attention to the Academy.

Tim Eaton
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Same for Roger Deakins..i hope he doesnt win Best Cinematography with In Time
 
Sanjin Jukic said:
It's a scary thing!!!
I'm concerned and worry about that situation.
Tell me what you think?
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Scary? Concerned? really?!?!?

The "buzz" for best cinematography next year, according to some blogs and press (so, quite meaningless, in fact), points to the following films: "Hugo", "The Artist", "Tree of Life", "Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy", "The Descendants", "J. Edgar ", and maybe "War Horse" if it's released before the deadline. If any of those movies gets a nomination and ends up "winning", would it really matter what format/camera were shot on?

WHO CARES? It's about cinematography, not about cameras!

It's about an achievement in cinematography made by very talented people, not about the tools they use.
Do you think "Inception" would have "lost" at the Oscars if it had been shot on Red? Did it "win" because it was shot on film or because it was great cinematography by a great cinematographer? (I'm biased, I love that film and Mr. Pfister is one of my favorite cinematographers). And what about "Slumdog Millionaire", "There Will Be Blood", "Memoirs of a Geisha", "Road to Perdition", "Saving Private Ryan", and so on?
 
Exactly as Francesco says! You use the best tools available to build what you build. And the Academy Awards are, let's face it, pretty whimsical and more about money, social connections, etc and when they get it right it's usually for the wrong reasons.
 
Sanjin Jukic said:
It's a scary thing!!!

I'm concerned and worry about that situation.

Tell me what you think?
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The Academy’s roughly 6,000 members vote for the Oscars. I'll say it again, The Academy’s roughly 6,000 members vote for the Oscars using secret ballots. There are more RED Owners than Academy Members. Why not have annual "RED AWARDS"? Let the Academy do what ever they want, in ten years (maybe three) there will be no films shot on 35mm. Let them do their thing. The last thing anyone should worry about is "The Academy", and their awards.

(further, about the awards, most who vote don't even watch the films, when I get my Oscar I'm going to expose all the hypocrisy)
 
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George Butterfield said:
The Academy’s roughly 6,000 members vote for the Oscars. There are more RED Owners than Academy Members. Why not have annual "RED AWARDS"? Let the Academy do what ever they want, in ten years (maybe three) there will be no films shot on 35mm. Let them do their thing. The last thing anyone should worry about is "The Academy", and their awards.
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Surely there will be nothing biased in that awards show:sarcasm:
 
George Butterfield said:
The Academy’s roughly 6,000 members vote for the Oscars. I'll say it again, The Academy’s roughly 6,000 members vote for the Oscars using secret ballots. There are more RED Owners than Academy Members. ...
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6000 members, essentially all of whom not only work in the industry but have some record of accomplishment. Personally, I think that still counts for something.

Let the Academy do what ever they want, in ten years (maybe three) there will be no films shot on 35mm. Let them do their thing. The last thing anyone should worry about is "The Academy", and their awards.
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And the last thing Academy voters should worry about when they're voting for Outstanding Achievement in Cinematography is what cameras were used. The award is for artistry, not technology, and it is given to the artist, not the camera. Whether or not a picture is shot on film ceased to be an issue a number of years ago when "Slumdog Millionaire" won the award.
 
I am rooting for Martha Marcy May Marlene - great flick, does anyone know what it was shot on? DSLR, maybe? I can't tell and couldn't find it listed in any of the stories. Sanjin, you must know, if it isn't RED, then what?
 
Hey guys,

I didn't want to talk about what the Academy is going to decide who will win the next Oscar or Award for the best achievement in cinematography 2011.

It was more about a consideration choice and a sort of relation to RED cameras RED ONE MX and Epic just because there were a lot of movies last year shot with them.

The consideration choice was done my The American Cinematography Magazine that is the official publication of ASC: The American Society of Cinematographers.

So that means something and it should be considered as a sort of message that was sent to RED, RedUsers and beyond...

But that's me and how I'm thinking or analyzing... just a thought….
 
PatrickFaith said:
I think Arri's been around like 60 years, red ... bit over 5? This switch to digital is a big leap, and the older crowd is going to have a lot of support relationships and background with Arri. My hat's off to the Hugo team.
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I agree. I just caught a screening yesterday, and Hugo is one of the most beautiful films I've ever seen (3D or no 3D). An amazing film in every way.

I don't think the ASC cares what camera was used on a show -- only how it looks. Don't forget that Social Network (shot on Red) was nominated the year before, and deservedly so.
 
Marc Wielage said:
I don't think the ASC cares what camera was used on a show -- only how it looks.
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Marc, you can always say:

Your camera doesn't matter or no matter how advanced your camera you (a cinematographer) still need to be responsible for the images...

BUT must say also

this or that camera determines the quality of images...

or let's choose the right camera for this or that job...

at the end of the sort no movie shot on RED cameras was chosen in that consideration...

That certainly tells you something or just nothing...???!!!

But also it shouldn't be ignored...
 
Francesco Bonomo said:
Those are advertisement pages paid by the production companies/studios. Those are not "endorsements" by the ASC.
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Francesco,

it is all about a consideration or a taking into account...

The Nominations Process for the Academy Awards

Nomination ballots are mailed to the Academy’s active members in late December and are due back to PricewaterhouseCoopers, an international accounting firm, in January.

Regular awards are presented for outstanding individual or collective film achievements in up to 25 categories. Members from each of the branches vote to determine

the nominees in their respective categories – actors nominate actors, film editors nominated film editors, cinematographers nominate cinematographers, etc.

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LINK>>>

Watch Caleb Deschanel on the Academy Awards Voting Process Video>>>
 
Sanjin Jukic said:
Francesco,
it is all about a consideration or a taking into account...
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Sanjin, I really can't see the connection between the nomination process, which I'm aware of, and the paid advertisement for " for your consideration" pages in trade magazines.
If there was a movie shot on Red that a production company/studio thought was potential Oscar material, you would've seen a "for your consideration" ad in American Cinematographer, Variety, ICG Mag, etc. Period.
(check page 19 of the december 2010 issue of American Cinematographer....)
 
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