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For those interested in Avatar

Can I ask a question?

How did you feel about Gollum?

Also how did you feel about the Elephant Man - after all, that was just make up.

I know you didn`t ask me - but my opinion: Gollom looked and felt fake to me, too, just like those dumb digital stunts/stuntmen (tom cruise in MI or that guy in Titanic that jumped and crashed directly onto the ships` propeller).
But just as others do I`ll wait and watch Avatar for myself before judging.
 
As the technology used in films like Avatar propagates, it becomes less and less reliant on technologies like cameras as we know them. There are already efforts afoot to bridge the "Uncanny Valley" -- Avatar harnesses some performance capture technologies to great effect. In the very near future, we won't be able to trust even news footage as reality. We're heading toward a tipping point where the ability to create synthetic realities will surpass our ability to detect them. Imagine how this could impact public opinion in a political sense.
 
As the technology used in films like Avatar propagates, it becomes less and less reliant on technologies like cameras as we know them. There are already efforts afoot to bridge the "Uncanny Valley" -- Avatar harnesses some performance capture technologies to great effect. In the very near future, we won't be able to trust even news footage as reality. We're heading toward a tipping point where the ability to create synthetic realities will surpass our ability to detect them. Imagine how this could impact public opinion in a political sense.

And that is....uhhh... good?
 
Oh, no problem there, the broad audiences will like it, especially the video game crazed youngsters, which is bad for me, because I hate sharing a screening room with them since they don't stop talking in loud voice, screaming at the screen and telling their bros and hoes that they be at the movies right now on their cell phones...But no, I think that both Cameron and Fox are really shooting for the demographic group between 8 and 80 years of age...

There's a very distinct gap. And I'm right on the border. None of my friends or friends of friends consistently text or are slaves to technology. But ONE year younger and they've been bratty nightmares since at least 5th grade. It's a very strange and very sudden change. Our class in gradeschool and highschool didn't get in much trouble and were always the class organizing school events etc. The class behind us were the ones getting the bomb squad called. :D My favorite quote from a friend's older brother was "We were the last generation to use technology without being abused by technology."

I was in a movie theater a few months ago and the guy in front of me whips out his phone and starts texting during the movie. Like multiple multiple times. So I kick the back of his chair and ask "Could you please stop texting until the end of the movie or do it outside the theater?" He pauses for a second and leans into his friend "Could you hear what he said?" Completely clueless as to what he might be doing wrong that would elicit a chair kick and scolding. :badputer:
 
"There's a special place in hell reserved for child molesters and people who talk during movies."
 
I know that Drew saw this last night.

Drew, give us a full report!!!
 
I know that Drew saw this last night.

Drew, give us a full report!!!

Well I can't really give a full report because one of the producers or post supers had me do a handshake NDA. So if I want to keep coming back to Fox I'll have to be as vague as possible.

So here it goes. As with almost all JC movies he has the science in it as believable possible, which just brings you into the movie even more. The level of design in the exosuites was really cool along with the other vehicles. But what really impressed me was the design and life of the Na'vi characters. They seemed very real and it was really what they were able to capture in the face and eyes. By far the best represented CGI/MC characters I have ever seen.

The action was also very much JC. So if you liked what he has done in the past you will like this movie. Plus the way it is done gives you a real sense of urgency and that the characters are in real peril. The 3D also enhances this even more.

This movie is by far one of the best 3D films I have seen because they don't try and use it as a gimmick by shoving images into your face and all that bullshit. Instead you feel like you are watching a 3D film. So I would strongly suggest that if you are going to see this movie, see it in 3D as it is amazing.

As for the story I'm not going to say anything because I think that's what the little handshake NDA was about.
 
Well I can't really give a full report because one of the producers or post supers had me do a handshake NDA.

That's not a real NDA, spill the beans!

Haha, just kidding. Thanks for the mini report. Fox seems to be embargoing all reviews until its opening, which could work poorly in their favor. No review quotes on the tv spots for the next 3 weeks.
 
The Independent; Avatar - Gateway to a new world

When footage of Avatar was shown at cinemas around the world earlier this summer, the response was far from ecstatic. Some viewers talked about enduring an experience akin to seasickness. Avatar is an action movie – and it remains a moot point whether 3D technology is ready as a format for action yet. Too much Sturm und Drang, especially if a film is cut quickly and has strobing and a pounding soundtrack, is liable to make spectators feel very queasy.

When you shoot at 24 frames a second and show fast lateral movement, the image will appear to be jumpy. With 3D, shooting with two cameras, this problem is compounded.
Film-makers need to slow down the pace, shoot at a higher frame rate, or risk their audiences feeling nauseous.


"If he [Cameron] succeeds in doing it [making a 3D action film] without giving people headaches, then it will be a revolution," suggests Ben Stassen, director of 3D animated picture Fly Me to the Moon.

"If anybody can do it, he can, but to me the technology is not ready for that sort of stuff."
 
Cameron said he already wanted to shoot at 48fps, but the studio was iffy.

You do get ghosting during fast paced scenes, but no headaches. Cameron was smart enough to "dial down" the 3D during fast shots so your brain didn't have to process the depth as much.
 
First reviews of AVATAR are rolling in. Yes! "Oscar-bound" " "movie magic is back" "How will Cameron ever top this?"

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film-reviews/avatar-film-review-1004052868.story

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Cameron said he already wanted to shoot at 48fps, but the studio was iffy.

The studio was "iffy" because among other things, there's no apparatus in place to project or distribute a movie - especially a 3D movie - shot at 48fps.
 
Reviewer from Aint it Cool: "It was pretty great...if by pretty great I mean OMFGHOLYFUCKINGSHITOMGOMGOMG. Because that's what it was."

Also...

(Reuters) – Director James Cameron's long-awaited "Avatar" wowed critics at its London premiere on Thursday, with some early reviewers calling it "jaw-dropping," "mind-blowing" and a game-changer in Hollywood for its digital effects.

The Sun called it "the most dazzling film of the decade. ... The final battle scene is 20 minutes long and absolutely mind-blowing."

"An epic film born entirely of Cameron's imagination, Avatar uses tailor-made technology to create the most astonishing visual effects yet seen on screen and blends them seamlessly into a mythical sci-fi story" -- Screen International
 
A tips for people living in or close to London; the Empire Leicester Square theater is the place to see Avatar.

“Empire Leicester Square boasts one of the largest screens in the UK, which is why it regularly plays host to world premieres,”
“Avatar promises to deliver state-of-the-art 3D special effects to audiences around the world.
To ensure every seat in Empire Leicester Square enjoys the fully immersing 3D experience, Dolby Production Services worked with Barco, Empire, and Twentieth Century Fox® to ensure the best combination of brightness, image sharpness, and color accuracy to display this spectacular new movie as director James Cameron intended.”

To meet Cameron’s exacting standards for Avatar’s premiere, Dolby and Barco worked to provide a customized solution, comprising two Dolby 3D large-screen systems, featuring four Barco DP-3000 ultra bright digital cinema projectors.
Using dual stacked Barco projectors for the left eye and an additional dual stack for the right eye, each set features Dolby's 3D color filter technology.

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Some interesting information from the Avatar designers;

5 Designers Reveal Secrets Of James Cameron's Avatar

We interviewed creature designers Wayne Barlowe and Neville Page, plus concept artists James Clyne, Ryan Church and Daphne Yap, about creating a whole new universe from scratch. Plus we've got some stunning concept art, from the new book The Art Of Avatar.

So here are a few things you didn't know about the design of James Cameron's Avatar:
 
So I read on another forum someone pointing out the tremendous similarities between Avatar and Ferngully... bummer, because I hate Ferngully and I wanted to like Avatar "Ferngully with Machine Guns"
 
what we need is a digital version of showscan.

Well, good luck with that.

For all of the fond memories people seem to have of Showscan, everyone seems to conveniently forget that it was a complete financial failure.
 
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