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For Sale: RED GUNNER PLUS RED WHEEL

Jason Bognacki

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Quick re-balancing range question

Quick re-balancing range question

During your testing did you find that the range of adjustment between the shoulder pad piece and the upper section allowed proper balancing fore and aft? I am interested in buying the Gunner from you but only if it can be slid far enough to compensate for the typically front heavy configurations routinely encountered when putting a zoom (or large prime) lens, MB, FF, etc out in front of a camera as small and light as the Epic or Scarlet. Don't get me wrong, I love the small form factor, I just don't want to spend a grand on a rig that even in its most slid back position is still front heavy without hanging a battery off rods several inches to the rear of the camera body - yes, that will technically work, but the protrusion to the rear can limit operator movement and creates a kind of rotational inertia that makes some common moves tougher to control.

FWIW I typically use the Brook/Viewfactor V-mount plate which essentially binds the battery weight (typically just under 3 lbs. with 90wH BeBobs) to the brain weight moving the COG maybe 2" rearward. If I put on a lightweight stills lens, SuperSpeed, etc and don't put on a matte box then I would expect the Gunner to easily reach the balance point. My question is whether I could switch to a config with an 8 pound zoom lens, FF, MB, couple of filters and get balance back by simply loosening the kip handles, finding the neutral point, tightening the kip handles and Bob's your uncle.

Cheers - #19
 
I tried it in a few different configurations. The first scenario you describe lightweight stills/superspeed w/o a matte box is ideal for the gunner. I tested it with a quickback and red brick attached to the back of the epic. I really love the configuration, compact and comfortable to hold close to the body and shoulder. Very maneuverable. No issues with being front heavy. I def had to extend the shoulder tail piece to the rear most position to balance things out. I purchased the gunner for just this style of configuration. I didn't test it with a larger zoom lens and full matte box etc. I supposed you could add a v lock http://www.red.com/store/products/accessory-v-mount to the back of the shoulder pad and quickly click on a quickback for your battery to lowering your center even more... I also test it with the http://www.red.com/store/products/pro-battery-module-dual on the Epic which also helped balance things out. I liked this confi also. Gunner is a great run and gun solution.
 
Ultimately I want a shoulder rig that has enough "throw" for me to quickly reset balance (COG) when changing lenses, adding matte boxes, etc while still keeping the camera compact. Perhaps that's a physics problem that no shoulder rig can conquer without either cantilevering batteries or raising the COG high enough for the pad assembly to pass under the brain and iris rods. Unfortunately a "high perch" design that gives the shoulder pad tons of travel tends to feel tippy and disconnected from the operator's body.

In any case, for folks who typically use lighter lenses, variable NDs, CF clip on or no MB (or don't mind adding an extension to the rear) your barely used Gunner might be just the ticket. Best of luck on your sale. BTW, I would trade you a module adapter and a quad battery module for the Gunner if that interests you...

Cheers - #19
 
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