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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Fixed vs. Interchangeable lenses...

You forget that it can also do 180fps in short bursts!
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Nope, but 120 until the drive or CF card is full is quite enough for most things :)
 
I think I'm going to overuse that 120fps mode... I think I'm going to make thousands of shortfilms about the flow of time before I'm working with regular time again...

...or maybe a feature film about timetravel :)
 
reds choice for scarlet seems very clever.

And FYI - our 2/3 Angenieux 5.3-53F1.9 zoom costs ~30.000, the 7.8-208F2 26x costs over 35.000...
 
Glazarus said:
I've never found the money to invest in that lens even though it's a pretty damn good lens. To have 18 - 144m at 2.8 together with a camera that can film stuff up to 120fps...
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When you say 18-144 mm, you must mean APS-C/35-mm motion-picture equivalent -- 18 mm on a 2/3-inch imager would have about the same field of view as 45 to 54 mm on a 35-mm motion-picture camera. Not exactly wide-angle.
 
Yes, that is what Jim said; 18mm (S35)
If people wnat to know stuff they should read Jims posts...
 
Jaime Vallés said:
If the lens on Scarlet is really 18-144mm, I'd be a very happy camper! That seems like the best range for indie filmmaking. For anything wider or longer, we can always add adapters in front.
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Exactly, this more than covers the range of a nice prime lens set. Many don't go this far wide or tele in a standard set. If you want shoot cine style and only use certain focal lengths (a sort of virtual prime lens set), then by all means do so.

This is going to be a lot of fun!
 
Jannard said:
And you can lock two together for 3D. Focal length, focus and aperture. Can't do that with two Nikons.
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The fact that you CAN shoot Scarlet like a pro camera (full auto with wireless control) places this camera in a very new category.
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Jim
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I have been seeking exactly this ability to do 3D and it is arriving with several other factors coming to fruition for the maturity of the art I have to show. Its almost unbelievable the synchronicity. So I guess this is called serendipity.

My deepest thanks to you Jim. You've hit a bulls eye for me.
 
All i can say is... i hope the Aussie dollar is still strong come first half 2009. :)
 
Hey Jim , it would be really cool to be able lock the servo motor on the lens...
this would allow guys wanting to use 35mm DOF adaptors like the letus and the redrock M2 to ensure perfect focus .

How about having a Scarlet approved 35mm adaptor so guys that really want the 35mm glass know what to get ?

Are there any ideas yet on the Diameter of the lens , and will it be a bayonet mount ?
 
Guys - just remember that Jim also said that there is "possibility" for RED wide and tele adapters for Scarlet. With that in place I don't see real reason to use 35mm DOF adapter, with the only exception to go extreme tele. I'm sure some will pop up (and I am not saying they are evil), I just want You guys to realize that RED-wide and RED-tele adapters are most likely in making. Keep that in mind...
 
Peter, whether it's logical or not, history has shown that people are going to strap 35mm adapters on this puppy come hell or high water.
 
Tom said:
Peter, whether it's logical or not, history has shown that people are going to strap 35mm adapters on this puppy come hell or high water.
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Absolutely [I would say]. :)

And in this relation,

Scarlet should definitely have a "Flip" option for its' LCD and preview outputs. Shouldn't be a great deal of processing for the camera.

Just for the preview, no need to burden the camera and make it flip the recorded footage.

And then we would also need a quality software "Flip" option in RedCine for when we're developing the RAW files.

35mm adapters usually have optical "Flip" units, but these lose more light.

Brevis itself loses 0.5 stop but with the flip unit, the loss becomes 1 stop.

I wonder, does it make any sense to use an optical flip unit [which loses light] when you can flip the whole footage in post. If you have a comfortable workflow for that, why not?

I believe that software flip-ing doesn't degrade the footage in any way? If I'm wrong about this, please, someone clarify.

So we shoot with the 35 adapter. We preview normally using Scarlet's flip option, but the camera records the RAWs un-flipped [to save processing power].

Then we flip the footage in RedCine.

Sounds like a clean and straight scenario for shooting with adapters.

What do you think?

[Probably I messed up things in English with all this flipping around, but I hope you get what i want to say? :)]
 
karapetkov said:
Scarlet should definitely have a "Flip" option for its' LCD and preview outputs. Shouldn't be a great deal of processing for the camera.

Just for the preview, no need to burden the camera and make it flip the recorded footage.

And then we would also need a quality software "Flip" option in RedCine for when we're developing the RAW files.
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Amen to this one. I have no idea why Sony and Panasonic can't get the hint - oh wait now I do. It's Sony and Panasonic. I'm sure Red is listening. A simple flip setting would eliminate the need for optical add ons like the MicroX from Redrock and Brevis' flip unit.

karapetkov said:
I wonder, does it make any sense to use an optical flip unit [which loses light] when you can flip the whole footage in post. If you have a comfortable workflow for that, why not?
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No it doesn't. The most important step is being able to monitor right side up. Most external LCDs have a flip function built in. JVC was the first big company to finally put in the simple button we've all be looking for - to flip the image on the camera's display.

On the post side if you have a setting to not only display the flipped image right-side up in camera but to also record the image right-side in camera that would be perfect and eliminate any post issues with flipping. This to me is such a simple thing I hope Red listens and provides the option.

There are lots of people out there with 35mm adapters. You better believe people are going to give them a try on Scarlet. 2/3" DOF might be good enough (I hope more than good enough for me) but sometimes and for some people only the full 35mm look is going to suffice.

Now a nice built in lens with a good wide end and both manual and full auto operation combined with a 2/3" sensor, 3k, RAW, & Red tele and wide-angle adapters, all recording to relatively cheap CF cards (by by crazy expensive P2 and SxS) - these were absolutely the right decisions. Congrats to Red. This is a revolution. You'd have to be on crack to choose an EX1 or HVX200 over a Scarlet.
 
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