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Robert Hart

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Last night, I finally got my greasy fingers, dandruff and DNA on a Scarlett camera when I attended a music video shoot last night. It was hoisted out of a camera box something like a rabbit out of a hat in an undressed state, a simple grey box with some buttons and sockets and a lens mount. Then they started putting its costume on.

I've never seen so many rods, wires, levers and Lemo plugs sticking out of a Box Brownie in all my life. It went something like, "we'll need this, no that can come off, put that on, then a button got pushed somewhere in the mix and all these lights came on and the display screen lit up on the back on something which was labelled Redmote. A time-lapse sequence of the emperor getting dressed would be a cool Youtube clip. By the time they had finished, it had gained quite a bit of condition and was a lean creature no more.

Best of all was the wireless doover they had on it for the director's split. If I win the lotto, I must get one of those and put it on the SI2K.

Then the DoP/camera-op mounted it on his steadycam, a proper one, the whole kit worth more than a rich sod's house. His assistant bunged on a bunch of Duclos-Nikons in their turn and it all looked quite magnfiicent. She was a spot-on inspiration to watch nailing the focus time after time with a wireless remote, sometimes with no camera monitor available to her at all. It makes one sick and jealous that young people can do this with such apparent ease.

Despite all the failure modes I expected to witness after reading all the alarming folklore about Scarlets and Epics, about the only thing they had to do was change batteries, change drives, change frame rates for all the different slow-mo things they were doing, copy files and maintaining line of sight to keep the wireless split working. So I was not afforded an opportunity to look upon a funereal huddle around a comatose camera with beneficent sympathy to say "my SI2K works all night, do you want me to go home and get it?" or something equally churlish.

There was this young guy scuttling about with an i-Phone looking thing attached to what looked like a portable light. Turned out that was the playback system and just with a few touchscreen stabs, the slow or fast playbacks and cues were instantly there. No more "Hang-on while I find the track". I didn't find out this until after I made a fool of myself asking if they were able to change the colour temperature of the hand-held light with the cool i-Phone app. In this electronic age, everything looks the same these days.


It was shot in a supermarket. There was plently of ambient light from overhead strips but the value-adding in the form of proper lights and a good lighting crew showed its worth on the screen as soon as they switched on. I even managed to make myself useful by dragging some cables about. There was only one person did this funny bunnyhop dance as a loop went under, so I did not do too bad I think.

Pig-heaven it was to be there to watch, the folks were kindly and did not usher my fat frame out of the way. The director mentioned that the bread and butter came from the TVCs and corporates, a hard enough gig in this far corner of the world but that the music vids were for the fun of it. They were a pretty happy lot and the director, being an actor, well demonstrated motivational skills and maintaining a positive vibe.

Inagining something like this happening here so routinely would have been an impossible notion when I was a kid. The times may be challenging for the new generation but they are amazing nevertheless.


I shan't be buying into the system unless the cargo plane comes home and I win the lotto but there is no harm in envy and covetousness.
 
Rob - Was right there with you thru the whole tale :)
Crazy little leaf-blowers, these Scarlets. Can't claim to have used mine with all the drama you witnessed, but it is a crowd pleaser, for sure.
Hope your cargo plane does, in fact, come home...

Stu Aull
SX 199
Alaska
 
I shan't be buying into the system unless the cargo plane comes home and I win the lotto but there is no harm in envy and covetousness.

Rob,
are you in the UK mate? I'm in Bristolmand have a simply-dressed but equally sexy little Redhead you can play with...
Regards

Simon
 
QUOTE: "Crazy little leaf-blowers, these Scarlets".

I paid close attention to the fan motor when it was having a cooldown between takes. The outflow was quite warm. Its noise was not anywhere as loud as I had believed from the discussions. It is within that critical audio-frequency that would send sound recordists quite insane in a confined interior and therefore needs work.

I think part of the story is also whether or not actors are taught to project quiet or apparent understated dialogue. There is a practical limit to how much the technological modern miracles can deliver when it comes to sucking in that last microdecibel. Here we go. I am probably going to re-ignite the method-acting debate.

The SI2K uses similar fans, four of them. When recording, they slow down but four instead of one in quiet mode obviously shift much more air. One pair draws air in, the other expels it. All fans are behind thick screens which are freeflowing and double as aircleaners. The smaller Epic/Scarlet platform limits the available real estate. A pair on top of the Scarlett, similar airfilters on all fans and the new speed control regime would go a long way to making it shut up and be quiet at the dinner table.


QUOTE: "Rob, are you in the UK mate?"

No, - I am in Western Australia where quite a few of the Red cameras have found a home in proportion to the State's population. Getting access to stare at them is another matter but I have also been a bit passive about doing it. Being already an SI2K owner-operator it is a bit like reluctance to open the envelope in case it is a bill. I live on the city outskirts a fair stretch away from where most of what happens, happens to be.
 
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You are not allowed to purchase a Scarlet unless you promise to always spell it correctly - S-C-A-R-L-E-T (thats only one "T"). :smiley:

That's so we don't get it mixed up with the other, good looking, Scarlett (Johansson). She has two Ts - nice ones at that - oh, and 2 Ss, as well. ;-)
 
Terry.


There are some of us who are beset with the double-buttoning affliction, such that we turn cameras off for the shot instead of on. The double "T" was one such mishap. ------- However -------

Being the vexatious fool that I am, from this point forward, I am likely to yield to the temptation to use the double "T" on the end in future discsussions if for no reason than to crank the sevenday stew around in the pot with a grubby stick to see if it burns on anywhere.
 
Ive had mine since Nov 2012.

Firing that baby up is like falling in love all over again ;)
 
That's so we don't get it mixed up with the other, good looking, Scarlett (Johansson).

Have been lucky enough to share a little time with Miss J and I can truly say... "What a lovely young lady. Nutty as a fruitcake, but a lovely person non-the-less."

SK
 
Hey Robert


Wonderfully written, makes me smile.


Although now based in London UK, I grew up in Western Australia, in a place called Greenmount near John Forrest National Park.


Whereabouts did the shoot happen?


I'm in Perth once a year or so, you're welcome to have some fun with my new Epic next time I'm there. You mentioned a remote follow focus, any idea what the brand/type was?

thanks

Adrian
 
Hello Adrian.

The shoot was at the Nedlands IGA supermarket on Stirling Highway. The store was being nightfilled and one of the producers managed to gain access permission which was pretty good of the owner. The follow-focus was wireless. I don't know the brand. It is a few years old. It belongs to the steadycam operator Jim Frater. Steve Rice, the other SI2K operator here has a share in a C-Motion, six channels for 3D. If he gets a 3D gig, he uses my camera head and his to a 1-Beyond recorder. Jim also shot these two clips way back in the days of the 35mm adaptors on JVC GY-HD250.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeGvCnaLk5k was shot direct-to-camera with camera on a carousel. It was shot by Penguin Empire, Grant Sputore's outfit at Joondalup Shopping area. Here's the behind-the-scenes. For a very brief glimpse you may see me and Steve Rice trying to get the carousel they rented out from the US to work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPfO8nGTneU

It was supposed to be this you-beaut gadget but was basically the guts out of a doner-kebab or chicken roaster with no proper bearing. It wobbled all over the place until we cobbled up this bearing for it out of set-builder's MDF and some grease on the side of the road at Joondalup shops.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT-n6noho7k was shot via a P+S Technik MINI35-400/JVC GY-HD250 at the old Globe Hotel before it was done up after the William Street Underground was built. Here's P2 of the behind-the-scenes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXNw_GbLCe8


Greenmount. - Where I am is Roleystone, also back in from the edge of the hills on Brookton Highway. If you get the Australian series on your BBC, titled "Who's been sleeping in my house", the first ep of the current series was on a house where during WW2 when it was a guest house, a Japanese spy was caught. The story was still around when I was a kid. He was apparently after Jack Sue who was one of the Z-force commandos.


Thanks for the offer to have a look at the Epic.


( And here's a bit of tongue-in-cheek provocation for Red purists to load up and draw aim on.)

Bob Hart.
SI2K 0178 "Der Alte Bruder".

PERTH. WESTERN AUSTRALIA.
 
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Terry.


There are some of us who are beset with the double-buttoning affliction, such that we turn cameras off for the shot instead of on. The double "T" was one such mishap. ------- However -------

Being the vexatious fool that I am, from this point forward, I am likely to yield to the temptation to use the double "T" on the end in future discsussions if for no reason than to crank the sevenday stew around in the pot with a grubby stick to see if it burns on anywhere.


Dear Mr. Hartt (May I call you Robertt?) - Completely understood. :smiley:
 
Bob Hart.
SI2K 0178 "Der Alte Bruder".

PERTH. WESTERN AUSTRALIA.
Your writing style is a real pleasure - if you ever release an autobiography or something the like please let me know! :)

SI2K 0178 "Der Alte Bruder". -> Since I speak and understand german quite well I just have to ask now; why or how did you choose that camera-name?
I want to hear the whole story on that (even if it's SI and not RED)! :)

Greetings from the country often confused with yours ;)
 
Peter.

The backstory is that the other SI2K owner in Western Australia, Steve Rice, went to Europe and dropped in on P+S Technik to do a short course on servicing a MIN35-400. He was hooked on the MINI35-400 after observing me shoot behind-the-scenes for a small indie feature on a Sony Z1/AGUS35 35mm adaptor. Within short time he had bought one. It actually got a speck on the groundglass at the "Coping Mechanism" shoot. He just about gave birth to plastic pups when I opened it up on the set and picked the speck off. He was determined to know how to do it properly thereafter, not on the floor with the adaptor trapped between two feet as an ersatz vicegrip.

He was demoed the SI2K while was there, was infatuate at first sight and came back with the demo camera to play with while his was being completed. When his camera arrived, the company offered the core of the demo unit at what was then a good price rather than haul it all the way back to Ottobrun. I bought into it with a view to reselling fairly quickly, rather than lose it as a resource for local digital cinema production. Then came the RED and then the Sony F3 for the low budget mob and that was that. No one wanted to play with anything smaller than 35mm sensors.

I was going to take too much of a financial hit so I kept it for my own projects and added the monitor and batteries which was all I needed to make it a goer.

Steve Rice's camera was delayed because at the time he was being taught how to use it and service it, a small sub-board was damaged when he was being instructed and had to be remade. This was early in the production cycle for the second generation body. So Ricey's camera became named "Das Schrechlicher Kind" because it had refused to work. The demo camera which they sent him back with became "Der Alte Bruder". This happened when using the Mini heads on a tethers to two synced recorder bodies for 3D. The older camera for some reason would not work as the "slave" camera. It always had to be the "master".

So far as I know, it is the only one in the entire world which behaves like this. The behaviours did not change after P+S installed the newer sensor ( think MX in SI2K terms ) so that both cameras became colour-matched for 3D.


There is something to be said for the German nomenclature of "Osterreich" and "Australien" to avoid confusing the Americans who seem most frequently of all to make the Austria/Australia error. I guess some of our lazy regional accents do not help - as in Australia being pronounceed "Os-tray-ee-yer". Our older broader accent and strange usage of words became referred to as "strine" for "Australian".

Over here, we use the abbreviation "WA" for Western Australia, which sometimes confuses our "cousins" across the ditch ( the Pacific Ocean ). Their abbreviation WA is for Washington State in which there is no Perth or Roleystone.

As for the SI2K system, we are looking forward to the new camera Ari Presler at SI is chipping away at and hoping that there may be a retrofit version. We are hopeful it will retain legacy support for our older systems. We accept that the old bodies may not support some of the new feature set the newer laptops will manage nicely. Our Core Duo XPe based recorder bodies are getting a bit ancient in computer terms. The new camera, as I comprehend it, will do every unique thing the other Super16 digital cinema systems do without their individual drawbacks. It should continue to be the go-to solution for agile/bodybourne POV 2D and 3D.

For sure it will not be a 6K Dragon/Epic but it will serve well its niche and generate a following.
 
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A long time in the following up but here is the music video which was shot by local DoP/Steadycam specialist Jim Frater on the Red Scarlet, directed by Ben Young. The performers were a young fun cheerful lot and well worth meeting.

Enjoy.


 
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