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FCC publishes list of illegal wireless mics

Looks like I'm gonna email some sound guys I know to give them a heads up. Do you know why are they making 700mhz illegal?
 
Its being converted to public use. This is not a brand new issue, but after much protesting, especially from Broadway theaters, this is now "final".
 
Jon Carr said:
Looks like I'm gonna email some sound guys I know to give them a heads up. Do you know why are they making 700mhz illegal?
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Michael Panfeld said:
Its being converted to public use. This is not a brand new issue, but after much protesting, especially from Broadway theaters, this is now "final".
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Actually it is being removed from free public use and has been auctioned off to the highest bidder for commercial use for profit. Your corporate oligarchy at work.
 
Yeah. The UK authorities screwed all the radio mic users, rental suppliers and manufacturers in the UK too so they can sell off radio spectrum.
 
The list is very misleading. Not all of the models listed are illegal; it all depends on the frequency at which the transmitters operate.

Note also it's not illegal to run a receiver -- only the transmitter will cause interference. The bottom line is that anything 700MHz and up will cause trouble (blocks 27-28-29 for Lectro, as one example).

This has been well-known by U.S. audio pros and dealers for at least three years now, so this has been in the works for some time. The rules apply differently in different parts of the world, so the freqs aren't illegal everywhere (yet). I see tons of this gear being sold on eBay right now, with most sales going overseas.

Note that Lectro has opened up several new frequency bands to compensate for the missing blocks. I do agree that buyers need to be careful that the used gear they buy won't cause trouble later on. I don't think you'll necessarily get arrested for using a wireless mike system in this range, but the reality is that it probably won't work once the 700Mhz band is fired up across the country for smartphone and ISP use.
 
After June 12th there will be a FoxHunting team in major metro areas. We will be giving out "Warning Citations" the first offense. As the FCC can and will confiscate your equipment.... this is good.
I have been asked to use my van with yagi on top with an FCC official riding along.....a paying gigi for me.
 
With the U.S. economy tanking, and government budgets getting slashed all over the country, somehow I tend to doubt the FCC will have the money to drive evil black vans all over major cities in search of illegal 700MHz users.

Where did you say you were from, Mr. (or Ms.) Trailangel?
 
Los Angeles... Mr. Technicolor! Yes, I'll be driving around LA, looking for those 700mhz abusers.
 
There's only one Mr. Technicolor: Dr. Kalmus, who's a hero of mine.

Me, I'm safe in the wireless wars. I opted for the new Block 19, which is way low (right around UHF channels 14-17). I just had a project where we did 7 simultaneous wireless and a mono camera hop -- all worked perfectly.
 
Trailangel said:
After June 12th there will be a FoxHunting team in major metro areas. We will be giving out "Warning Citations" the first offense. As the FCC can and will confiscate your equipment.... this is good.
I have been asked to use my van with yagi on top with an FCC official riding along.....a paying gigi for me.
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I smell a reality TV show in the making...Set up an array of transmitters across the city and with a well coordinated effort you could "on-and-off" the signal as the fox hunting team roams the city.

Kinda' like the "whack-a-mole" games you see in the arcades.

On a more serious note, I'm sure some class action attorneys are prepping for the change over. This effectively amounts to a form of eminent domain, only in this case, the government failed to remit funds received from the spectrum auction to the "landholders" (aka the users of the wireless equipment).

I spoke with the top guy at Sennheiser the other day. He said their lobbying effort just couldn't compete with the phone companies who will ultimately control those blocks for commercial use.
 
Jack Cooper said:
I smell a reality TV show in the making...Set up an array of transmitters across the city and with a well coordinated effort you could "on-and-off" the signal as the fox hunting team roams the city.

Kinda' like the "whack-a-mole" games you see in the arcades.

On a more serious note, I'm sure some class action attorneys are prepping for the change over. This effectively amounts to a form of eminent domain, only in this case, the government failed to remit funds received from the spectrum auction to the "landholders" (aka the users of the wireless equipment).

I spoke with the top guy at Sennheiser the other day. He said their lobbying effort just couldn't compete with the phone companies who will ultimately control those blocks for commercial use.
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..lets all stop using phones and start using wireless mics instead, that'll show the b$*tards..

..Yeah, some company thinks they own the rain over my head here in the UK, catch it in a bucket or divert it from its natural course and I'm breaking the "god damned ****in' law"..

What you called I ask? and, who did you pay exactly for that tax funded going concern you imagine you might now own? :emote_rainshower:

Of course most of these decisions, made over our heads and without our consent, simply don't affect most people. And are all made for our mutual benefit with long term planning that, frankly normal people wouldn't understand.:eek:ut:

:nopity:I shouldn't moan. I'm not even elligible for water rates as I opted to sit at home and drink my own piss instead. I wash in it. I bath in it. I water the garden with it. I love it. :bath:

They can lock us up, take our posessions, but they can't steal our dreams (except at Quantanamo, where they replace them with classic Van Halen..but thats better than my dreams, which are all just unregulated sh1t)

note to self: start broadcasting illegal tv signals of any kind asapp
 
^^^

That is some funny shit!

"Census 2010" workers with scanners....all Feds......checking airwaves this spring.
 
Trailangel said:
["Census 2010" workers with scanners....all Feds......checking airwaves this spring.
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That sounds like a typically shrewd allocation of federal resources: I can't recall how many times I've had to call a halt to a location shoot so a census-taker could interview one of the crew ... :sosp:
 
ronx said:
..Yeah, some company thinks they own the rain over my head here in the UK, catch it in a bucket or divert it from its natural course and I'm breaking the "god damned ****in' law"..
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how does that work???:blink: haha
 
The 700MHz block is prime spectrum because it carries over long distances and easily passes through buildings and obstacles. It is intended to be used for next-generation Internet services, which in my opinion serves a much greater good than wireless mics.

This is the change that will hopefully lead to inexpensive, nationwide Internet access for everybody. There was a time when electricity or running water were expensive novelties, now we don't even think about them. Freeing up the 700MHz block should be the development that makes bandwidth a commodity like water or electricity.

I am a bit shocked that the government hasn't offered rebates to those affected, or required manufacturers to perform the upgrades at cost, but at the same time most sound guys I know have paid off their gear many times over and upgrade every few years anyway. This is a good opportunity to add an "FCC Fee" to your sound gear billing to recover the costs.
 
Brent, I don't know about Canada, but here in the UK, thanks to Gordon Brown's eco-fascists, electricity is fast returning to the status of an expensive novelty! e.g. Old age pensioners buying up cheap books from charity stores to burn because they can't afford to run their electric heaters anymore! I kid you not!
 
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