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Exposure ASA and Latitude

My two and a half cents...
As you may or may not know digital cameras of all types have a Native sensorASA rating. This usually ends up being the point where you would derive a symmetrical dynamic range (ie. 5.5 under and 5.5 over in exposure). From here you can decide what is more important your highlights or shadow detail.
If you intended to shoot dark moody scenes you are actually better off shooting a slower ASA speed on the camera say 200ASA. (ie. 7stops under - 4 stops over) and Grading the picture to deliver the specific Gamma and Gain of the image. Aa mentioned in this post all ready shooting a higher ASA like 500ASA will end up giving more room in the highlights sacrificing your shadow detail. (ie. 4 stops under - 7 stops over). Check out my super basic text art below. Keep in mind there are a few other factors that come in to hand when deriving actual dynamic range so the even stops below and above will certainly vary.

The final two words on all digital cameras is making sure you deal with the footage at the highest Bit Rate possible as this will help preserve your precious latitude gradients. Keeping an eye on your mid-tone range and exposing your 18% grey (aka skin tone) at a point that looks best after processing is also very important. If you don’t figure this out you may be adding noise which is not desired in you mid-tones.

:::BASIC TEXT ART:::
(We will call 200 our Native ASA. Keep in mind that due to Signal Noise in the blacks your actual dynamic range will change.)
ASA Stops over+ Stops under-
800 7.5 3.5 (18% is based lower in signal voltage on a wave form)

400 6.5 4.5

200 5.5 5.5 (Native ASA of Sensor in theory)

100 4.5 5.5

50 3.5 7.5 (18% is based higher in signal voltage on a wave form)

Again these views are based on basic princaples and dont reflect other factors that come into play with digital processing and posting or RAW data.
As others have said on this site the ASA ratings on the RED ONE is really just a way of helping you compose your lighting ratios and aperture opening for your different lighting scenarios. Knowing the Native range of the camera and shaping your shadow and light range in a way that suits your look in the end is all that really matters. Just like any film stock exposure and post processing steps.
I hope this may help.
Cheers
Chris
 
Totally agree and understand what you're saying biker_eh. A few months ago I might not have :-)
Another "Exposure" ASA snag is to check/remember asa settings you shot, as playback on HDMI out (and HDSDI?) does not set this for you...it defaults to your last shot setting. You have to set it manually (unless I missed something? If you shot an exterior high contrast scene at 500ASA and then an interior at 200ASA on that card/drive you would have to re-adjust exposure via the shortcut and wotawi encoder.
I also see the value of the drive where you can play back a whole days footage relatively easily to multiple on-set HD monitors BEFORE offloading to choppier/clunkier reference movies for viewing ...
 
Slightly OT...

I'm seeing it more and more in digital features (21, Get Smart) where the DP shoots at 1/24 shutter to get that extra light in...

I hate it. It screams video to me, yet it's becoming more and more common. I haven't tried 1/32, but I would imagine that it's not as ugly as 1/24.

Funny that it screams video to you.
Typical video is shot with faster shutter (1/100, 1/120) than film and 50 fps (60 fps) interlaced. That means less motion blur plus sharper temporal resolution, making video looking so realistic without strobing.
On the other hand filming progressiv with 1/25 (1/24) shutter and 25 (24 fps) reduces temporal resolution a lot, but the stronger motion blur reduces the strobing. But this is nothing like video.
 
When the Canon LX-100 and then the first DV camera (Sony VX1000) came out, they both had these 'progressive-esque' fake 'film modes' that would basically deinterlace by removing half the vertical resolution and taking the camera down to 1/30th or 1/15th of a second shutter speed. As this was pre-true progressive 24p, but the closest thing to it temporally, it was a favorite of indie filmmakers shooting on video.

Then when the first 24p cameras came out, a lot of filmmakers would make the mistake of shooting at 1/24 instead of 1/48 because they thought that because they were shooting at 24fps, their shutter should match.

I only say it reminds me of video because it's the only place I've seen it. Filmmakers who shoot video, and think that 1/24 is the proper shutter speed for 24 frame video.
 
I only say it reminds me of video because it's the only place I've seen it. Filmmakers who shoot video, and think that 1/24 is the proper shutter speed for 24 frame video.

If film cameras would have been physically able to shoot 360 degree shutter you can bet that filmmakers would have done that for the extra stop. :D

But so nobody is used to this look. And you are right that video filmmakers confused the proper shutter speed.
 
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