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ESPN: "Get ready for 4K Sports"

How will an epic work with 4k sports ... realtime debayer in the pipeline or rgb redcode?
 
Alexander Ibrahim said:
Ben says nothing Red makes today can serve the quick turnaround TV market.


I'm as bullish on Red's future as anyone can be outside of Red, but let's not ascribe new physics to them just yet.
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Hmmm, wonder what about a modular camera system requires new physics... ?

Just saying...
:)
 
Alexander Ibrahim said:
Encouraging to see.

I've argued with Jim a lot about whether or not 4K will take off in the home. He sees it as inevitable.

I want it, but I think there will be serious consumer pushback. Times are rough economically, people just got these HDTV's and I'm not convinced ordinary folks tell the difference in a home entertainment environment.

As a result I think most won't buy 4K until their 1080p TVs break and 4K TVs are available at the "magic" under $1000 price point. This could be the technology of the 2020's.
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An extremely valid point, HD is beginning its phase here in Brazil, perhaps a bit more settled in USA. I wouldn't expect 4K TVs and broadcast anytime soon.

It wouldn't even be smart, however, if companies get ready to roll out products, they will shove them down our throats pretty quickly either way.
 
Anthony Luca said:
Disney and many others are going 4K, as well

here is a super video --

http://www.youtube.com/user/EBUTECHNICAL#p/u/0/j-PYNKfLSrM
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A word of caution here. Timetables are much, much longer than technical conferences ever seem to infer. Things that are discussed as imminent are almost always at least a number of years away. As an example, file based delivery of network television programs has been under discussion for a number of years, but only now are we beginning to see it acutally happen - and that has been heavily influenced by the Japan earthquake and its rather sudden effect on the HDCam SR supply chain. If that hadn't happened, it's very likely it would still only be in the talking stages, just as we would likely still be producing some new film shows if the SAG nonsense of 2 years ago hadn't happened. In fact, I sat at a roundtable discussion at the HPA conference about 4 years ago and discussed proposed file based delivery formats (specifically, a digital video package modeled after the digital cinema package) with Annie Chang from Disney, who's interviewed in this video (brilliant woman, BTW). That STILL hasn't happened, and instead we're seeing adoption of proprietary, de-facto standard formats (notably Apple ProRes) for this purpose - a very bad trend, IMHO, but attractive because, hey, it's here and it's cheap. The future be damned.

Take everything you hear from technical representatives interviewed at industry trade shows with a very, very large grain of salt. Especially when it comes to actual implementation timetables.
 
Deanan said:
Hmmm, wonder what about a modular camera system requires new physics... ?

Just saying...
:)
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Just in case my joke went over people's heads ...

The Red goodies you are hinting at don't exist, so I can't use them today, and certainly it wasn't available when I wrote the post you replied to.

If you have the new physics for a time machine though... I suppose I could still have the new goodies yesterday if I needed it?

I'm pretty excited about what Red is doing, and so let's just say I'd be pleasantly surprised if I could get Epic 5K downconverted to 4K fast enough for live 4K broadcast.

Wait ... actually I don't care. I don't do that.

I'm excited for the people who do need that though.
 
Anthony Luca said:
they along with some Reduser.net members suffer from myopia :-)
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So far those folks predicting 4K will take some time to get to the home are correct.

Then again .. HDTV 1080p has technically been available in the home for twenty years now.

So long as the home in question belonged to a wealthy person or a very very serious AV enthusiast.

So how do you define "in the home?"

For me its not that technical "first available unit" but rather the day when Best Buy et al. sell more 4K TVs than they sell HDTVs.
 
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