Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

Log in
  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Epic-X Still Photo Mode & Time-Exposures

Joe Taylor

Joe Taylor

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 29, 2007
Messages
1,146
Reaction score
0
Points
36
Location
Las Vegas, Nevada
Website
www.joetaylorcinema.com
Does anybody yet know if Epic-X will have the Still Photo Mode? Did a quick search was unable to find any recent info. Been doing most of my time-lapse work as of late with the 5D and the whole workflow is such a drag. Would be so great if Epic could implement the still-mode with a time-lapse feature where the user could easily sequence their exposures in the RedCine-X timeline, do a base color correction on one frame and apply it to the entire sequence then click EXPORT-- easy as you please.

Also, it was once discussed that Epic would be capable of making long-exposures-- is that still a go?
 
Joe Taylor said:
Does anybody yet know if Epic-X will have the Still Photo Mode? Did a quick search was unable to find any recent info. Been doing most of my time-lapse work as of late with the 5D and the whole workflow is such a drag. Would be so great if Epic could implement the still-mode with a time-lapse feature where the user could easily sequence their exposures in the RedCine-X timeline, do a base color correction on one frame and apply it to the entire sequence then click EXPORT-- easy as you please.

Also, it was once discussed that Epic would be capable of making long-exposures-- is that still a go?
Click to expand...

As I understand the whole "DSCM" concept, ALL new RED cameras double as a still camera. I believe there is a switch right on the front of the Side Handle that you can actual set to either "still" or "motion" modes (??). Besides which you can extract a full-rez still off any frame of motion you shoot. Beyond this I know there has been discussion of TL-type of programming within all RED's too, tho don't know if it will be enabled on the first release of the 'X'...

Stu Aull
Alaska
 
Why not just set it to a framerate of .001 for example and explicitly set a shutter speed you want. Then just roll a clip as normal. It's a timelapse movie then. All color correction is applied to all the frames as normal being that it is a clip and not a sequence of stills.
 
You could do that, Chris, but then you're limiting yourself to a 1 frame per sec. interval. Epic does have a time-lapse feature built in and is great for brighter lighting conditions where you're shooting fairly short durations. What I'm really talking about is working with long exposures and/or long, battery draining durations between frames, which really isn't a problem with DSLR's but was/is a big problem with ONE. I would think that Epic in its Still Mode runs much more efficiently than when in its "live" digital cinema mode. If we time-lapse shooters could implement the Still Mode as a time-lapse mode of sorts, much like we do with our DSLRs, and import our 'footage' into RedCine-X and work with it much as we do with our standard sequences, I would literally mothball my 5Ds as time-lapse cameras. They make great images but the workflow is way archaic and cumbersome. For night shooting, I still greatly prefer working with my Arri 2C/Norris machine-- and that is so wrong in 2011!
 
Joe,
From your work, you obviously know what you're doing but I thought I'd share my workflow as I find it pretty smooth. I work in Capture One Pro, which came with my digital back but isn't that expensive and works with most raw formats.

After shooting I drop all the Raws into C1 Pro.
Make tonal and color adjustments to first image.
Set up a crop that works with my target project (usually 16x9)
Select all stills and copy and apply the adjustments from the first image to the rest.

Then I set up a Process Recipe for my project... so for HD it'd be 1920x1080 @ 72 DPI TIF (well it's already set up now. You only ever have to do that once)
Then just process all the files.

I can probably do all that in under a minute, then I just drop the folder of stills onto my NLE timeline.

I imagine my process can be duplicated in LR, but I don't use it so I haven't tried. I doubt I'll mothball the 5d2. I usually let it run TL by itself while I'm shooting footage with the Red on another part of the set.

Cheers,
CB
 
Christopher Barrett said:
Joe,
From your work, you obviously know what you're doing but I thought I'd share my workflow as I find it pretty smooth. I work in Capture One Pro, which came with my digital back but isn't that expensive and works with most raw formats.

After shooting I drop all the Raws into C1 Pro.
Make tonal and color adjustments to first image.
Set up a crop that works with my target project (usually 16x9)
Select all stills and copy and apply the adjustments from the first image to the rest.

Then I set up a Process Recipe for my project... so for HD it'd be 1920x1080 @ 72 DPI TIF (well it's already set up now. You only ever have to do that once)
Then just process all the files.

I can probably do all that in under a minute, then I just drop the folder of stills onto my NLE timeline.

I imagine my process can be duplicated in LR, but I don't use it so I haven't tried. I doubt I'll mothball the 5d2. I usually let it run TL by itself while I'm shooting footage with the Red on another part of the set.

Cheers,
CB
Click to expand...

what do u use to drive the camera to take intervals? and how do u store your sequence (on the camera card or on a host computer, etc)?
 
I'm not Christopher but I do it much the same way but in PS camera raw. The time-lapse can be handled by an accessory that canon makes to trigger the shutter, it's a timer of sorts. I can't remember what the accessory is called. I store the images on the CF card, i use at least an 8 gig and shoot RAW. I love the Red but I like doing TL with a DSLR more. I haven't tried it yet with the Epic.
 
Thank you Christopher. I've heard some great things about Capture One and will have to make the move. Wish Photoshop made it that easy.
 
Joe Taylor said:
What I'm really talking about is working with long exposures
Click to expand...

Currently the Epic is limited to a maximum exposure of 1 second.

And you are advised to do a new Black Calibration when using this length exposure.

I certainly hope that this limit is removed eventually, because like yourself, I also do long exposure (25secs) timelapses.


And to answer the other question, the unit which controls the camera is called an Intervalometer.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top