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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Epic=Master Shots Only

MOCAP and shooting in the volume is COMPLETELY different than shooting a wide master and then cropping in for coverage.

I understand repo of frame.

I do not understand this guy's sensibilities...
 
jimhare said:
No it won't. The FOV will be different but the depth will be identical. You tend to see quite a bit of depth in wider shots, where closer shots are shallow, either because of proximity to the subject or a longer lens being used. If I crop in, anything in the background will not be any more or less in focus.

I get what you're saying, that the magnification plays a part, but the actual depth of what is in focus, stays the same.
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You're confusing depth of field and background blur, as people often do.

For the same framing of the subject, depth of field will be roughly equal on a wide and a long (with some caveats, but that's the general rule). The blurriness of the background is not necessarily related to the depth of field. Depth of field describes the sharp areas.

Check this out:
http://toothwalker.org/optics/dof.html
 
Shawn Booth said:
Heard This On Set:

"I can't wait for the Epic. With it, no more shooting anything other than the master! I can zoom in and pull out the close ups and other coverage just from it!"

This producer works at a major studio and truly believes the future is just shooting the master in 5K and then "moving on"...

I understand how awesome it is that in post we can repo our shots for a variety of reasons but I can't believe this mentality exists...
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I'm glad I don't know that guy.

Come to think of it, he should be glad I don't know him either.
 
i cant believe this

i cant believe this

this is the worst thing i have ever herd of shooting a master and then move on ..... thats not cinematography thats lazyness any one who uses this method will never be respected you could use a master if you want all your shots to be flat true cinematographers want to get different things out of every shot not just an identical shot just closer this is the craziest thread every in the history of red this is not what 5k is for!
 
Shawn Booth said:
Heard This On Set:

"I can't wait for the Epic. With it, no more shooting anything other than the master! I can zoom in and pull out the close ups and other coverage just from it!"

This producer works at a major studio and truly believes the future is just shooting the master in 5K and then "moving on"...

I understand how awesome it is that in post we can repo our shots for a variety of reasons but I can't believe this mentality exists...
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Funnily enough, that's the same idea that came out when I spoke of the bigger Epic brains to a fellow cameraman, who was shocked to hear about resolution going from 9 to 28k.
We also theorized that, with so many cheap producers around, having that much resolution could be dangerous: now I see we were far from being wrong...
 
I think the producer is being creative.. Sure its not ideal, but theres a creative spirit in that intention. Robert Rodriguez would often do this kinda stuff to mimic multiple shots etc..
 
jimhare said:
I have also created dolly shots, but only at 720.
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I think you mean you created zooms.

But yeah, agreed this technique should only be used in emergency situations. It's also handy to zoom in just a bit to do some image stabilization sometimes.
 
I've seen this kind of stuff for ages now in DV: post-produced zooms or even small sideway dollies. Most of the time, they sucked as the format wasn't allowing it.

Probably, with higher resolutions, it will catch on with music videos...
 
Johan Malmsten said:
The producer is probably a fan of swedish director Roy Anderson I presume... He only shoots in wide angles and almost never edits his scenes. Imagine a scene like this done with the repositioning-technique added to it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cedB_Ye2O5A
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Wow, after googling I think I must see this. I like those painterly master shots (Also Tartovsky's snail-speed tracking shots). When a film needs that look, it's an amazing effect - like witnessing scenes from a real perspective. Horses for courses, I guess. Two pops and a master works great for Rom Coms.
 
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