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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

EPIC-M Monochrome

Jarred Land said:
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Will it have the Epic-x Fan cover or the one for the "M" i see the "x" in the pic but just asking
 
BillBarnes said:
This sounds awesome Jarred!

Question, will the possible frame rates see a significant change from what I guess is a pretty big difference in data rate? Am I right in guessing that files of the same resolution and frame rate will be around half the size?
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frame rate will be the same.. the output resolution is the same. The difference here is that instead of reading 4 pixels ( RGBG ) to interpolate ( guess ) 4 final color pixels, you are reading 4 unique, accurate imaging pixels to create 4 accurate final pixels. that is why all Bayer Pattern CMOS sensors loose effective resolution, for example our 5K cameras measure an accurate 4K resolution after Debayer, and most 1080p cameras net only an accurate 1.2-1.6k image.

Its an important distinction.. one of the reasons we have always touted resolution is so important, and also the reason you are now starting to see cameras that do oversampling like the F65.
 
Terry VerHaar said:
Interesting - I got the "sharper image" part right away. I just didn't realize there was a large demand for B&W only images; at least not to the tune of $42K. lol

But, I am right that one could colorize the images in post and have one hell of a sharp image in full color. Yes?
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I think you only have to color green screens, Terry. '-)

But seriously, I've colored old Black and White photo scans so I suppose you could do individual frames... otherwise, moving footage would need something like Turner Classic Movies did to old B&W films years ago.
 
Any sepia settings in the firmware?
 
Jarred Land said:
frame rate will be the same.. the output resolution is the same. The difference here is that instead of reading 4 pixels ( RGBG ) to interpolate ( guess ) 4 final color pixels, you are reading 4 unique, accurate imaging pixels to create 4 accurate final pixels. that is why all Bayer Pattern CMOS sensors loose effective resolution, for example our 5K cameras measure an accurate 4K resolution after Debayer, and most 1080p cameras net only an accurate 1.2-1.6k image.

Its an important distinction.. one of the reasons we have always touted resolution is so important, and also the reason you are now starting to see cameras that do oversampling like the F65.
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Got it, makes sense that that's where you gain. I bet it looks beautiful, thanks.
 
Crazy. I had no idea that B&W cameras were in high demand.

This makes me really really really want to shoot something on it.

Hey Jarred, send me a camera for some tests?

;)
 
Terry VerHaar said:
..... But, I am right that one could colorize the images in post and have one hell of a sharp image in full color. Yes?
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Forget about doing it in post. Just buy three of them, a beam splitter, couple of filters and take over the town.

Seriously, this fills in a gap - nice going guys!
 
This will be an extremely niche product. A welcome addition to those who require it for the projects.
 
Terry VerHaar said:
But, I am right that one could colorize the images in post and have one hell of a sharp image in full color. Yes?
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Terry, there are no color filters over the photosites so there is no way to colorize it in post. It is pure B&W.
 
Seriously cool, Jarred. I imagine this would be more of a specialized rental item for many, but I bet the final results in B&W are spectacular! And I second the motion to name the first Epic-M Monochrome Ansel. :)
 
I think many people will be happy to use filters again without reducing the quality. Like in the old days, red and green filters to get a specific look (like a nice cloud capture), and have no pixels "blind" anymore and no further reduction of the quality. Fantastic. Perhaps a Scarlet version one day? (I guess even the compression might be better!?)
 
Jarred Land said:
Native ASA 2000.
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Jarred, is the camera now more sensitive because the removal of the Bayer filter (thus more spectrally efficient), advances in your Mysterium sensor technology, or a combination of the two?

What might we expect for native senstivity of the Dragon Monochrome sensor? A mind-boggling 4000 ASA?

Are the compression options (3:1, 5:1, etc) still the same for this model as the regular color model?
 
I assume, that this camera will have a standard spectral response? How about having an ability to adjust it to, say, infrared? I imagine, the images from this camera should rival Panatomic-X with medium format camera. What a great idea! Can't wait to see those images...
 
Michael Millichamp said:
Where's the Scarlet love?
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Probably no scarlet since they will certainly not do massive production (only machined Epic).

Anyway, it's a great news, just after the Leica-M monochrome, the Epic-M monochrome. Maybe a good match, or should people get rid of their Leica and just keep a mount for Epic ? :-D
 
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