EPIC-M 'Backup-Body' Rental

[Tim Whitcomb]

These are different times than the early days iof the RED ONE and M-X upgrades. Owner operators who think they are going to pay for their cameras are in for a major lesson. There are also many quality alternative cameras taking revenue.. namely Arri Alexa.

I have to agree with Greg on this one Michael.. As innoucuous as your idea may seem. I think you are devaluing the EPIC-M with posts like this and that is a risky (frustrating) proposition to those of us who
do this for a living... not a hobby. Especially, given your mainly a software developer (glad the referral worked out btw! I look forward to the game!)

But if you indeed only meant this for friends and family and trusted Redusers... perhaps a PM would be have been a better idea? Because like Greg, if people want a back up - we charge full price because its off the market.

cheers!

 

[Willis Chung]

I think you are devaluing the EPIC-M with posts like this

+1

Understand where the host is coming from to get his Epic-M out as much as possible without the act of being greedy, but that's one of many reasons why the market for the R1(MX) became so saturated. Therefore, selling your camera short, doing what rental houses would NEVER do, is what defines you as "Greedy" and is one of the bigger reasons how the $60k camera gets devalued... - for the sake everybody doing it for a living whether it's private or rental house, don't do it!

 

[Mike Weber]

I guess the unasked question is: How much is a "full price" EPIC rental?

 

[michael zaletel]

I have to agree with Greg on this one Michael.. As innoucuous as your idea may seem. I think you are devaluing the EPIC-M with posts like this and that is a risky (frustrating) proposition to those of us who
do this for a living... not a hobby. Especially, given your mainly a software developer (glad the referral worked out btw! I look forward to the game!)

Hi Tim,

This would be for the next installment of our i4vegas.tv project. Not really a hobby, at least not financially.

I just don't want to have location agreements, permits, cast and crew in place in Vegas while live streaming to a large Internet audience without a backup M body on call. I may have to pay full package price for such a backup to my M if my X doesn't show before July.

Thanks for the referral. This is why I love RedUser.

-michael zaletel

 

[Detlev Eller]

Value and Devalue ...

I think it is up to the EPIC-M owners, to keep the prices reasonable .... up, that is.

;-)

The folks running after cheap hardware package deals and compete on price are in a different pond, than the ones offering a particular production quality and aesthetics and are competing on value.

I am on the stand, that the EPIC as a tool offers far more possibilities than any so called "competing" tool.
In my eyes, there is none.

If price is the only differentiator, fear of loss of business is natural.
In top end quality, price does not matter (so much) ...


One will eventually suffer. the other blossom. But not all can play both games and some choose the easy route.

Anyhow, i think it has been a reasonable question of Michael to ask, especially on our community page ...

 

[Harcharan Singh]

EPIC-M

EPIC-M

Hi,

In 'current' scenario where EPIC-M is like gold sand , I think 1/2 price for backup body does not arise..ie if anyone has a backupbody at all. I think it should be charged 'premium' or atleast the full 100% charge for the backup body because if any of the working units fail this body will save the $$$$ you have spent on the shoot.

Maybe after 6 months when there are more EPIC-M's or EPIC-X's in market then due to supply demand economics the 50% charge for backup body may hold good and it will also depend on other factors such as number of days , current projects in hand , availability of EPIC's in the area it is required.

Harcharan