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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Epic has changed...

Jim is like the Wizard of OZ.....he pops in every once in a while and delivers the news. It's kinda cool.
 
Oh man, Jim should totally have a Twitter account.

Also, I'm excited about these new versions of the cameras. More than likely it's just another example of the open nature of the process, and it'll be stuff that many of us have been asking for. I'm hoping that, as a side-effect, it also helps to distinguish the market segments of each product more clearly.
 
The most interesting thing is that the "twin" thread over at scarlet user generated so far over 50K views and almost 50 pages in responses, all under 24 hrs... It used to be the other way round... :) :) :)

http://www.scarletuser.com/showthread.php?t=1047
 
It is very obvious, why EPIC has changed. All one have to do, is to put one and two together.

There were 2 incidents at the LHC in CERN during the initial tests runs. All that happened last week.

First, a 30 ton transformer used to power cooling stations for portions of the superconducting magnets "failed". Then a faulty electrical connection between two magnets melted, causing a helium "leak". This forced the scientific teams to warm up the collider system. A process that will take months.

... at least this is what they tell you.

My uncle worked as a security guard at CERN. His job was sitting in the control room and observing the security cameras. A job, that is not very exciting, as not many people attempt to steal something as large as the LHC. 30 minutes after the second incident, his supervisor asked him to leave his station and go home. As nobody knew about the "problems" my uncle was quite glad to get back home and check out his favorite forums..
My uncle came back the next day, and checked the tapes of the cameras. There was nothing on them. Until he checked the logfiles, and discovered, that the timestamps did not match. Obviously, someone has changed them.

What nobody at CERN knew, that my uncle has installed his very own RED ONE as a security camera. Out of boredom, as I told before, and because he liked to grade 4K a little in his freetime on his home-san. So, while the crews were busy with the "leaks", my uncle got his RED and headed straight to his home.

Only to find out, that someone has broken into his apartment. I got a frantic call from him 30 hours ago. There was something on the tape, important enough, that my uncle had to go into hiding.

I met him on a lonely street at the Geneva lake this evening. He had his RED with it, and played back the files. And there it was...

I do not dare to speak of it. The most strange thing was, that after the first playback, the camera initiated some sort of self-destruction sequence. A countdown started to go backward on the display. My uncle run into the darkness, and I only managed to pull out the SD card out of the camera, before I ran.

I will never hear on my left ear again. The explosion was that huge.

I still cannot believe what I saw. I have the SD card right with me, but I cannot read it in REDALERT. It was only playable in the camera. Gladly, my uncle had still build 15 on it, so I am having a wavelet jpeg2000 reverse transmitter running a trace on it. It is slowly reconstructing some frames.

I did not hear from my uncle since then. I called my bank 9 hours ago, and my assets has been frozen. I turned my cellphone off. But it might be to late.

Here! The first frames are coming! I will try to remember what I saw.

A HUGE guy is mounting something onto the tube of the LHC. Thanks to the 4K resolution i can see the sunglasses. Made by Oakley... Hmm.

A second guy, bold, is holding a dark emmiting sphere into the tube of the LHC. This guy has a T-shirt with a red chainsaw blade on it.

Now they are attaching something to transformer cables.

Now! The chief of CERN is joining then, checking the connections. They shake hands!


Jesus, I have to upload that here somewhere! This is just too important!


They leave the tubes and disappear. The emitting dark light gets lighter. It seems some sort of experiment is running. All is lighted in an incredible beam of dark light.


The lights in my apartment just went out. Good, that I am hacked into my neighbors wifi. There! A somebody knocks at my door! At 4 am ???


The dark beam explodes. And then, for a fraction of a second I see it...
It is the long searched red-particle.
Beautiful! Frozen as 1 pixel in the 4K frame...

SOMBODY isdf in my apt! damm, i needto uploda hti fast!
damniitt, upldof hit the upload
 
Jim is like the Wizard of OZ.....he pops in every once in a while and delivers the news. It's kinda cool.

Nah, Jim Jannard is like Chuck Norris...he just starts revolutions instead of roundhouse kicks to the face.
 
JJ as Chuck Norris

JJ as Chuck Norris

Nah, Jim Jannard is like Chuck Norris...he just starts revolutions instead of roundhouse kicks to the face.

However, his revolution does deliver roundhouse kicks to the face of execs at Sony, Pany, and Canon...
 
Red is a company I have to work for.... (software architect)... so, why no response to my resume? :ph34r:

I am so passionate about this co. :blush:
 
I feel a bit like a fish that’s been thrown onto a deck gasping for air (or is it water)? We have been designing new types 3d acquisition products around RED ONE and the concepts behind EPIC and other cameras besides.

The announcement of the DSMC was very exiting indeed as it opens up new technical frontiers especially for our firm. The EPIC, I have always (probably incorrectly) interpreted as a special application camera for FX types shots or sequences where you know that you are going to have elaborate process shots in post, but not very many film makers (I have thought ) would shoot an entire movie using EPICs. In this respect I have always thought of the R’Ones as the main practical work horse on location or in the studio.

With CMOS technology if you can bothered you can do almost anything (as opposed to the much more restrictive circuitry of CCDs).

I am betting (at this moment) that the EPIC, DSMC and SCARLET could all use the same sensor. However the implementation of the same sensor will be very different for each model. I have always thought that the concept designs of the Scarlet seemed very restrictive as the design did not allow for different lenses and other modifications. The functionality of the Scarlet will be absorbed by the DSMC. The difference in the EPIC and the DSMC/SCARLET will be processing bandwidth. EPIC will let you roll at higher resolutions and frame rates than DSMC/SCARLET. This does not affect 4k Red One’s as the range and types of I/O for the EPIC/DSMC/SCARLET will be very much paired down in comparison to a studio camera.

In terms of form factor I am hoping that the new cameras will be offered as a small “block” similar to a small medium format digital back. That way many 3rd party companies can design a ton of different bodies, lens arrangements and so on for the different digital backs. No restrictions, just a new explosion of camera design, and hopefully we will start seeing more cameras designed and manufactured in the US.

P.s. check out the new LEICA -S, (37MP) DSLR (a new format between 35mm and medium + lenses + DNG and strategic alliance with PhaseOne)

What’s cool about Redusernet is that you have all types of “image takers” talking about what they like or want from video, film and stills photography all on an equal footing and generally with an open mind and appreciation for each other's discipline. I really like the idea that techniques in still and motion start to blend (very cool).




Check out us.leica-camera.com/photography/s_system/

And www.s.leica-camera.com/
 
You guys are absolutely, 100% insane...and I love it. Im so glad you're willing to pull the designs this far into development for the benifit of the end product. It is a testament to your dedication and innovative nature.

While alot of people seem to be freaking out about the scarlet/epic announcments, I'm just going to laugh a bit, sit back and wait to see what magic ensues.

Cheers to you RED.
 
I trust your instincts, Jim. You are one of the best product developers I've ever met. You prove over and over again how important it is to be your own customer.
 
If they are really really clever, Scarlet, DSMC and Epic will just be different config bundles with a few modules (like the sensor) in common.

Scarlet would have a lens mount, LCD viewfinder, electronics for 3k movie capture (or 4k after all, who knows), sd card slots and few connection ports. All very compact. Lens mount? Dunno. But most likely for the kind of glass that's most available. Also a good Red zoom lens included for starters.

DSMC would have electronics in favor of high-res HDR still capture and burst mode for short raw sequences. EVF, LCD, CF card slot, USB port...
Lens mount for maximum compatibility with still lenses.

Epic would have the most advanced signal processing in favor of HDR and high speed movie capture. Connection ports of all kinds. Mount for movie lenses.

This way you could maybe plug something together that's as small as a SI-Mini for special purposes like miniature shoots, compact stereo rigs and stuff.
 
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