Epic: a low sound level

[Stefano Ceccon]

Hi all,
I have this configuration:
Epic build 4 + http://fortiscinema.com/fortis-xlr-adaptor.php

1- I tested RODE NTG 2,
very low volume (max level on Epic) (balanced and unbalanced).
With +48 big big noise and low sound

2- RODE NTG 4 +48 phantom on Epic, very low volume and big big noise

3- Sennheiser ME66 +48 phantom on Epic, very low volume and big big noise (no K6 power module)

4- Sennheiser radio Lav g2, perfect!

5- Zoom H1, ((mini jack direct on Epic)), perfect!


Conclusions:
-The phantom +48 on Epic unusable in any configuration (too Noise)
-Radio mic Lav. OK
-directional microphones do not work
-External recorder ok

I have to make shooting in the high mountains (3.500-4.000 meters)
No sound man possible! :-((
The helicopter I pose on a ridge; Red in hand-backpack with lenses and battery, and mountain guide of course
Audio is very important!!!
I was hoping that the RODE NTG 2 worked or directional microphones!

A few suggestions?
Thanks

 

[Stefano Ceccon]

Here's how I do the shoot.
Crest of the Breithorn (4.000 meters)
Me + mountain guide

Now in 4k

 

[Matt Ryan]

I believe Phantom Power is enabled but you need the proper cable. Mono Unbalanced if I remember correctly. That could explain your issues.

 

[Stefano Ceccon]

I used the same cables and the same mic on a R1MX all summer, no problems.
Now, with the Epic, I have problems

 

[Matt Ryan]

But the inputs are different. R1MX is mini xlr, Epic/Scarlet is 3.5mm mini jack. So you must be using a different cable to connect to the inputs of the brain. Have you tried playing with the settings to go from balanced to unbalanced or vice versa in camera?

 

[Stefano Ceccon]

Yes I've tried all the combinations.
R1MX - mini xlr to xlr - cable xlr - mic.
Epic - http://fortiscinema.com/fortis-xlr-adaptor.php - cable xlr - mic.
Then I think, that the Fortis gives me problems

 

[Les C.]

If you're not getting phantom power, this link shows a diagram of what you need and suggests a cheap solution.

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showth...bles-Work-(And-why)&highlight=Epi+Audio+cable

I use a 'W***en' A-Box.

I do have to turn up the amplification quite a bit in the camera's settings. +32 DB for my Rode NTG-2 which seems a bit high for a phantom powered mic.

 

[Peter Strietmann]

Try the A-box from W__den camera, works great.

 

[Stefano Ceccon]

Thanks for the advice!
I ordered the cable described in the link you have given me.
When I get, I inform you.
I am evaluating A-box.

 

[Stefano Ceccon]

All problems solved! with this:
http://www.ebay.it/itm/Cavo-Minijac...39?pt=Attrezzature_per_DJ&hash=item3ccd3d07d3

It also works with +48 Rode NTG3 :yesnod: