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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

EOS 5DmkII users rejoice!

>> Thought this may interest you. I shot a music video with the 5D MK II and presented it to an audience her in South Australia, for a Canon Demo Night in the Mercury Cinema where I work. I'm lucky enough to have access to a Sony Cinealta 4k Cinema Projector and to put it mildly, people (and I) were blown away. We were able to compress to MPG2 and feed in to the projector at full res HD, which then upscales to 4k. <<

(Brad Halstead)

http://vimeo.com/4704533?pg=embed&sec=
 
Wow nice video and a lovely tune too. :thumbsup:
 
Cristina S. said:
>> Thought this may interest you. I shot a music video with the 5D MK II and presented it to an audience her in South Australia, for a Canon Demo Night in the Mercury Cinema where I work. I'm lucky enough to have access to a Sony Cinealta 4k Cinema Projector and to put it mildly, people (and I) were blown away. We were able to compress to MPG2 and feed in to the projector at full res HD, which then upscales to 4k. <<

(Brad Halstead)

http://vimeo.com/4704533?pg=embed&sec=
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Notice how badly this video blows away Bloom's similar video with the GH1. Not even close. 5D2 is the champion of the night.
 
The 5DII is definitely the low light master but from what I've seen the GH-1 has much better skew control and better motion handling. I've downloaded the clips from both the MII and the GH1 and projected both at 1080P on a 92" screen. Overall they are pretty similar, there is a little more compression in the Gh1 but like I said better motion (24P) as well as the ability to 60FPS at 720P, which also looks great even uprezed to 1080P.
When the 5DMII gets 24P and controls the skew just a bit better we'll finally get the "game changer".
 
Evin Grant said:
The 5DII is definitely the low light master but from what I've seen the GH-1 has much better skew control and better motion handling. I've downloaded the clips from both the MII and the GH1 and projected both at 1080P on a 92" screen. Overall they are pretty similar, there is a little more compression in the Gh1 but like I said better motion (24P) as well as the ability to 60FPS at 720P, which also looks great even uprezed to 1080P.
When the 5DMII gets 24P and controls the skew just a bit better we'll finally get the "game changer".
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Also ability to put a PL mount on it, makes it very scarletish:)
I got Zeiss S16 superspeeds begging to be used.
 
Tom said:
Notice how badly this video blows away Bloom's similar video with the GH1. Not even close. 5D2 is the champion of the night.
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How much of this is the camera and how much of it is the lens? The GH1 comes with a pretty slow lens. What was used on the 5D2 in comparison?
 
Evin Grant said:
The 5DII is definitely the low light master but from what I've seen the GH-1 has much better skew control and better motion handling. I've downloaded the clips from both the MII and the GH1 and projected both at 1080P on a 92" screen. Overall they are pretty similar, there is a little more compression in the Gh1 but like I said better motion (24P) as well as the ability to 60FPS at 720P, which also looks great even uprezed to 1080P.
When the 5DMII gets 24P and controls the skew just a bit better we'll finally get the "game changer".
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Exactly. My GH-1 is DEFINITELY the skew winner. The Jello on the MKii isn't great. Better than D90 but I could still eat it with a spoon it's so thick.

The GH-1, had it better compression, would be king. It's still the overall better image acquisition "VDSLR"... just the MKii got lucky with the high bitrate 1080/30P.

Give it some time and these lines will further be blurred.
 
Tom Visser said:
How much of this is the camera and how much of it is the lens? The GH1 comes with a pretty slow lens. What was used on the 5D2 in comparison?
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Most people are using pretty damned fast glass with the MKii. The GH-1 hasn't even shipped stated side yet but i've been using my GH-1 with Contax Zeiss glass.

The MKii is probably a stop better than the GH-1. I haven't measured just yet, but again, the 1080 really isn't that far off from the MKii.

Just that pesky pulldown. Grr.
 
I'm also interested to hear about Olympus' forthcoming camera announcement this month. It is also a micro four thirds offering with a body sort of "rangefinderlike". Rumor has it that it will be video capable too. Some rumors have 2 different models being released. My only disappointment with the GH1 is the low data rate on 1080/24p. I like the idea of the Olympus because it is even more of a pocketable "high performance point and shoot" style camera than the Panasonic. When I use it for cine applications, its going to be on a tripod, head, mixer, rails, etc... so could really care less about the from factor and ergonomics of the body at that point.

Talking about the next generation or two, let's get 23.976 fps support rather than true 24p - its more appropriate for what most of us are doing. And for the broadcast side, 29.97 fps.
 
Olympus looks like it's only 720/30P. There was a post up somewhere 'round the net. =T

Samsung NX is the one I want to see.

Wish the GH-1 could get an easy 1080/24 and 720/24 MJPEG add on. That'd be sick.
 
Cristina S. said:
Disagree with Evin Grant.

Shame you didn't see this post now removed:

Or you wouldn't compare apples to oranges.
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I would put it back but just thought it would take the discussion in the wrong direction. It's likely to cause a lot of the same heated debate seen elsewhere. Somehow things always seem to gravitate to the GH1 vs 5D.
 
Kholi said:
Olympus looks like it's only 720/30P. There was a post up somewhere 'round the net. =T

Samsung NX is the one I want to see.

Wish the GH-1 could get an easy 1080/24 and 720/24 MJPEG add on. That'd be sick.
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I'm pretty sure the Olympus 720/30p was complete conjecture, would like to see that guess wrong. What's the skinny on the Samsung NX? I haven't heard anything at all about it. I like the fact that Olympus and Panny seem to be set up to introduce a real solid new standard in the four thirds / micro four thirds and that the bodies are so easily adaptable to almost any other lens standard, due to the short lens back / sensor relationship and flange opening... a very friendly standard.

If the Samsung NX also uses four thirds or micro four thirds lenses, does 1080/24p at a higher bit rate, or I should really say, the end result is better, then it is a clear winner. If they decide to go with a proprietary lens system, I would probably just go with the Olympus or Panasonic models, put my investment into glass, and wait until the technology matures a bit and then upgrade the body, hoping my investment in glass has been sound.
 
Just shot this a few days ago. Another night time biking riding fun example..

http://vimeo.com/5008702?pg=embed&sec=

This was shot with the new firmware. I did the Philip Bloom method of 30p-->23.98 conversion. I really wish we had native 24p in this thing. Oh well. Still love the low light portability.
 
Richard Darge said:
Just shot this a few days ago. Another night time biking riding fun example..

http://vimeo.com/5008702?pg=embed&sec=

This was shot with the new firmware. I did the Philip Bloom method of 30p-->23.98 conversion. I really wish we had native 24p in this thing. Oh well. Still love the low light portability.
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Okay I am jealous, Richard. Endless night rides are the shit! And tacos FTW.

Man this camera really does kick ass; Michael Mann must be DROOLING over that LA skyline...can see the palm trees clearly...AND you have 35mm DOF.
 
Richard Darge said:
Just shot this a few days ago. Another night time biking riding fun example..
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Bikes rule! Now to get another halfway decent bike...

I have built my own before from the frame up but have an old beach cruiser right now. Hey don't laugh! I live near the beach.


This and the other video look great! How are you shooting while riding? Just sitting up and one handing the 5D2?
 
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