Enough "K" already!

[Peter Majtan]

Please. This thread should have been "only 28K?" It's surprising just how many people are anti-resolution. I can't wait to see the back end of 4K!

Not everyone has the kind of storage required for extreme high resolutions. I have just installed 64TB fiber SAN for a client in Florida, who's projects are "only" in HD (the 1080 kind). That was just under $60K. While there is certainly space for high-res cameras, I believe there is equally space for lower-res cameras. Especially indies and others with extremely limited budgets would certainly welcome an addition of a brain with 3K (resolution) in S35/FF35 sized sensor, destined for 2K workflows. This would permit the use of affordable, yet high quality still glass without the need for PETA-BYTES of storage...

I am not saying anything against the current line-up - not at all. I am personally looking forward to the 617 Epic. I will, however, use it only for stills. I own a 617 film camera and I can only imagine the landscapes I can photograph with the 617 Epic...

But on the other side of the spectrum I would love to see the addition of such a brain and I believe many others would. Until then I will be happy with the fixed-lens Scarlet, when it comes out...

Just my two pesos...

Peter

 

[Radoslav Karapetkov]

3.K. is O.K.

 

[Billy Summers]

I won't deliver film on 9K. I will downsample to 2K most of the times. I need the 9K for stills. Medium format still lenses like Mamiya, Hasselblad/Zeiss, Pentax 6x7 lenses will cover the sensor. And I assume Red will have some as well at the time.

If you don't want 9K, just don't buy the Epic 645, dude.

...Okay?

If you want 9k stills, (today) you can shoot Hasselblad with a digital back!

As far as I know Cinema glass doesn't exist for those formats...
ask your AC how they feel about pulling focus in 9k, WFO on a still lens (still lens mechanics?!)

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the REDvolution we're all a part of and I'm not trying to offend you. I'm just trying to wrap my head around putting these ideas into "practical physical action" (Production)

...anyways

 

[Priyesh P.]

It´s not only the unneeded data overhead I`m afraid of, but also processing power. The amount of time required to downres all of that footage you shoot over the life of a camera sums up tremendously. Backup issues were discussed lots and lots of time, so I won`t repeat - but I am already fed up with the "bit" I have to deal with. It makes me mad that I can`t keep all of the raw footages of past projects online due to their volume and with 9K as a starting point it`s just going to be a way bigger hassle...I would accept 2K at any time as archive files.

 

[Robin Balas]

...Okay?

If you want 9k stills, (today) you can shoot Hasselblad with a digital back!

As far as I know Cinema glass doesn't exist for those formats...
ask your AC how they feel about pulling focus in 9k, WFO on a still lens (still lens mechanics?!)

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the REDvolution we're all a part of and I'm not trying to offend you. I'm just trying to wrap my head around putting these ideas into "practical physical action" (Production)

...anyways

Try capturing anything moving hand held with a Hasselblad without flash and you realize how extremely difficult it is to use a 645 mirror box house shooting 0,5-0,75 fps and having the mirror slamming force you into the 1/500sec speeds on low ISO. There is a lot of room for improvement in that field and new equipment is required to break into new grounds - today not possible or hampered by the technical equipment issues.

I see vast opportunities with a 645 (and also 617) fast fps camera for new uses. (fast fps in this size is 1fps or faster by today's standards) If you don't need 9K don't buy it, if you don't think you can put it to good use you don't need it. But please let the others decide for themselves how to use it and if they need it or not. There is a world outside motion film which also awaits the EPIC's and SCARLET's. The fact that many user on this forum fails to recognize that have up until now not affected Mr. Jannard's visions, and I hope it never does.

Quantum leaps in technology and creativity almost never ends up where the creators and current users anticipated. Time will show what the new uses for this awesome technology will be, and I am so extremely grateful to be able to be around when it happened. And I am sure this equipment will see a lot of use outside the motion film industry as the cost including optics is comparable or less than Hasselblad, Leaf, Sinar and PhaseOne is charging me for 645 equipment today.

MHO.