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Elite Optica Super 35 MKIII lenses

Well I agree - otherwise why shoot anamorphic etc but for the imperfections that make the image interesting.

My interest in beginning to skew towards the smaller lenses if I can just get a take on whether they will definitively cover proper s35 (so when I upgrade my camera in a year I don't end up with useless glass). I emailed Grigory yesterday with some questions so look toward to getting some clarification hopefully tomorrow.
 
Hi James

Your comments on the actual light transmission of the elites has been niggling me... Basically you are saying they are nearly a stop faster at any given stop than standard speeds?? (sorry if I'm getting this wrong)

How can this be? Did you have any other lenses at hand?

I feel a test coming on!:construction:

confused

Michael
 
Yes - It seemed to indicate that the standards transmission stop on the 20mm was equivalent to the Elite at 1/3 open on T2.8 approx. In other words, I guess, the portholing on a digital sensor robs you of light not just at the edges but mildly at the centre too. This might only affect distagons and not planars but a test would need to confirm this.

To qualify:

Zeiss at t2.1 = Elite T2.8 (Maybe a third open, by a purely visual match up)

certainly at equivalent stops the elite seems observably brighter (I can test this properly at some stage)

I have noticed this occurring on a few shoots where (for example) the gaffer lights (by meter) the green screen to T4 1/3 - we end up close to wide open on the Zeiss lenses ( 2.8 1/3 ). I put it down to variances in the known actual Asa of the Red itself - but now this has me thinking. In short the long throat at the back perhaps is inhibiting transmission to the digital sensor somewhere in the region of almost a stop). The Elites on the other hand had, I estimate, a 1 stop transmission advantage - two stops thanks to the T1.3 - but exhibited loss of contrast, some resolution and coma at wide open.

This is, of course, guesswork on my part at this moment (based on a couple of hours examining the lenses for other qualities) - a more thorough test might be possible tomorrow (I am prerigging but will ask my AC to oblige whilst prepping the camera). For the record the Zeiss standards are exceptionally sharp lenses - even wide open there is hardly any change in lens resolution or coma.
 
James T Mather said:
In other words, I guess, the portholing on a digital sensor robs you of light not just at the edges but mildly at the centre too. This might only affect distagons and not planars but a test would need to confirm this.
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weirdcrew said:
I have no clue why they decided to call them Digital Primes? But as for size they're close to the Zeiss standard and super speed.
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Maybe the above is why they call them "digital" primes. Modern DSLR lenses are specifically designed both with optics and coatings to maximize the light to a the pixel sensors on the chip which are less sensitive to off axis light than film would be. This is one reason I think a lot of people are going to be pleasantly surprised at how well the more recent SLR lenses perform on RED as more EOS smart mounts come on line. (not to mention that many are full frame 35 so will work with future full frame sensors)
 
hello,

in one week i will have new Elites S35 here.
I am buying it from Elite.
It will be: 18,24,35,50,75,100
In near future i will have more here /we are thinking about 135,200,12/
location: Bratislava, Slovakia, Rental possible.
If somebody is interested and has question, i can try to answear and help than.
peter@filmpark.sk
 
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