Element Technica/RED accessories review video

[Robert Mott]

Thanks, really appreciate it.

 

[Ryan Manes]

Not sure why I need this plate. Just got through a shoot with all Arri equipment and Oconnor 2575 head everything fit together like butter.

 

[Mark Pedersen]

I'm getting an order together from ET, their stuff seems great (I haven't had a chance to see or touch any for real yet). I wonder though, why does the Arri 19mm base plate cost $300 (50%) more than it's 15mm equivalent, they are practically the same size, they should cost the same, no ?

Same question for their dove tails, why are the 1030 dovetails $100 to $150 more than the 2060 dovetails, they seem pretty similar.

They sell their 15mm and 19mm rods for the same price, I understand that, the cost is in the manufacturing not the material.

Cheers,
Damien

Well, consider this: the 15mm base plate doesn't compete with Red's bottom plate. The 19mm does. Could be the reason, who knows?

 

[Damien Molineaux]

Well, consider this: the 15mm base plate doesn't compete with Red's bottom plate. The 19mm does. Could be the reason, who knows?

Yes maybe that's it, but in truth who's gonna buy the Red plate alone. The Base Prod pack is such a good deal, I'll bet 99% of Red customers have bought it. Then if the ET 19mm base plate were a little cheaper (on par with the 15mm version) I'm sure they'd sell a whole lot more, especially considering the feedback concerning the Red base plate, and/or the great complimentary accessories made by ET.

Red, would you reconsider the pricing of the ET 19mm base plate please ?

Cheers,
Damien

 

[Fredrik Callinggard]

Not sure why I need this plate. Just got through a shoot with all Arri equipment and Oconnor 2575 head everything fit together like butter.

Looks good!!

Although you're connected directly to the O'connor quick release plate not connected through a sliding base plate. Some of us wants that "sliding" option for several reasons - mainly to work of and on other equipment equipped with a dove tail plate.

For example "slide" off sticks to "slide" it on a steadicam or a crane. With the ET base it's a matter of seconds.

Cheers

fred

 

[Ketch Rossi]

Good job Finner,

I was initially going with the large Euro plate, very glad I didn't so now I'll have the ET ones.

BTW, in the video it seems as if you lost weight since LART, eat some more "PASTA" Buddy, ( or are the ladies consuming you?)


Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI

 

[Leo Ticheli]

Thank you!

Great job!

Good shooting and best regards,

Leo

 

[Jon McCoy]

The plan I have for my camera is to have pretty close to all of its accessories be Element Technica and other add ons like remote button, wireless Follow Focus and Matte Box from View Factor Studios.

Over here in the UK, we just don't get hands on access to this gear - so it's great to hear (and see) real feedback. I'm also quite happy that my own approach seems to be taken by others too!

With Arri's price rises next month, I was trying to make the most of the current prices, and get a new MB and FF for my Red setup (so much re-engineering in current MB and FF, got no chance of using them on the Red). Then Red hints at new MBs, and I find View Factor's electronic FF - and am stuck between a rock and a hard place. Tried and tested, at a last-gasp price, or risk the new and unusual...

So far:

MB - Arri MB20 (unless View Factor or Red can do better and cheaper)
FF - View Factor (wireless and virtually zero-backlash?!?)
Rods - 15mm or 19mm in Aluminium
Plate - ET/Red

And lots of Red-brand odds and sods.

Yes, but if you want 15mm, you have to buy the ET base plate, while if you want 19mm, you can stick with the Red base plate. I would like the 19mm ET base plate but I don't see why I should pay 50% more than for a 15mm ET base plate.

Interesting the comments regarding 15mm on the West coast, and 19mm on the East Coast and in Europe in the video.

I'm building fresh for this setup, so have the opportunity to use 15mm or 19mm - and want to make sure I head down the right path...

I've used 15mm rods in the past (with 15mm CF's on current system), and can't recall using 19mm - so I can't compare based on experience (or indeed memory).

Given that most gear fits or can be shimmed to fit either, and putting the obvious weight versus costs versus strength aside, am I missing an obvious one here?

Because it's fun to stick it to the Europeans.

Doesn't explain why OConnor is a British-owned US company, with insane prices in the UK... All they need is a UK office, ship the heads in bits to it, and have them assembled in the UK. Hey presto, massive import duty tax breaks (import of parts, versus finished goods).

 

[Adrian T.]

When I mount the camera with an ET bridge plate onto the ET dovetail plate I sense a lot of friction. So it's quite hard to slide it in.

Any suggestions what kind of lubrication might help? Finner?

 

[Finner]

Are you sure your locking slider (silver lever) is all the way off? It should slide on quite easily. Maybe the tightning mechanism needs to be adjusted. If you lift slightly on the top of the camera as you slide it in and make sure that you are sliding directly forward that should also help. Sliding a heavy camera on to a dovetail can be a bit of a practiced and learned motion. If the base plate and dovetail slide together easily just on there own then you just need to practice getting the feel of sliding them together with the camera on the base plate.

You do not need lubrication so if the problem is there after you check the lever and practice sliding it straight on then contact Stephen at element technica.

 

[Adrian T.]

Are you sure your locking slider (silver lever) is all the way off? It should slide on quite easily. Maybe the tightning mechanism needs to be adjusted. If you lift slightly on the top of the camera as you slide it in and make sure that you are sliding directly forward that should also help. Sliding a heavy camera on to a dovetail can be a bit of a practiced and learned motion. If the base plate and dovetail slide together easily just on there own then you just need to practice getting the feel of sliding them together with the camera on the base plate.

You do not need lubrication so if the problem is there after you check the lever and practice sliding it straight on then contact Stephen at element technica.

Thanks a lot, Daren.

I can see now what the problem is: a RED universal mount on the front 19 mm rods doesn't have enough room above the silver clamp on the left side of the 2060HD head. Without the universal mount it slides in easily.

It looks like just 1 mm more headroom would help here. This is a bit of a bummer I must say... :waaa:

Here's a snapshot of the problem area:

 

[Finner]

Im confused. Thats red gear not ET stuff. Please post wider pictures of your set up.

 

[Adrian T.]

Im confused. Thats red gear not ET stuff. Please post wider pictures of your set up.

I know that the universal mount is RED gear. But I was expecting it to work with the ET mount on a OConnor head. :whistling:

Here's a wider shot. The green line marks the problem area.

I think I can work around the problem by repositioning the universal mount.

I just hope that Curt's motors will not interfere with the OConnor mount.

 

[Finner]

I see your problem now, its add on extra's for work around things that is giving you grief. Typically with an arri film 15mm or 19mm follow focus there would be no binding or issues. It is because you have to use an adapter to get you down to the narrower video rod configuration for your smaller video follow focus that you are running into problems. You may have to get out a grinder and file.

As far as View Factor motors go there attachment brackets are machined and built low profile to work with cine baseplates and dovetails so there should be no probelem.

 

[Adrian T.]

I see your problem now, its add on extra's for work around things that is giving you grief. Typically with an arri film 15mm or 19mm follow focus there would be no binding or issues. It is because you have to use an adapter to get you down to the narrower video rod configuration for your smaller video follow focus that you are running into problems. You may have to get out a grinder and file.

As far as View Factor motors go there attachment brackets are machined and built low profile to work with cine baseplates and dovetails so there should be no probelem.

Thanks a lot Daren for your support.

You may have to get out a grinder and file.

LOL! You should really start a new career as a comedian! The way you say simple things like that is really funny!

 

[planet e]

As for an audio breakout box...

Reviving this thread to beg Stephen to elaborate on this teaser line...I'm hoping it is as streamlined in design as the other ET BOB, which I just ordered....the AIRSEALAND concept looks functional, but I'm hoping for something which feels more organic to the camera...instead of like a goiter.

 

[Anthony S. Lenzo]

We will have the panel and breakout box at NAB. If you plan to attend the Reduser/NAB party on Tuesday, you can get a feel for the panel. It's slightly wider than a full size XLR connector. Any thinner, then we'd have to use the mini-xlr connectors, which would defeat the purpose of its design. Internally, the panel contains a few circuit boards, and has to provide room for the connectors that attach to the camera. It is as slim as slim can be. See you at NAB.

 

[Finner]

All the new ET gear looks fabulous guys, the EVF mount is a functional piece of art. Not to mention I heard from a little bird about some of the new products Stephen and Hector have in development and they are very impressive.

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

I will second Finner's statement.

They have newer and better locks on their dovetail plates now. The dovetails for the 2060/2575 have additional holes tapped in them to make them more compatible with other tripod quickplates -- like the ones from Sachtler and Miller.

Other upcoming parts from them sound really great. I was hoping to see their hand-held rig, but it wasn't there.

 

[Florian Stadler]

One thing one shouldn't forget either is that going directly onto your head without quick release plate (Europlate) is only an OPTION in case you must have a lower profile and that extra inch makes a difference. I don't know a First in this world that wouldn't want to have a quick release. Just because you can doesn't mean you must.