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Element Technica/RED accessories review video

Jashunter said:
Rocketeer, im with you!

Great slide plate design and i understand the need to demo it but having to explain it to people is scary. Guys if your out there shooting with 35mm depth, 2575 heads, filters, 300mm zooms, 6x6 filters, grads, follow focus, rods, supports, donuts etc etc please use trained 1st AC's and grips who know all this stuff backwards. No offence to anyone but all this Pro gear in (some) indy hands scares me.
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DITTO!!
 
Jashunter said:
Rocketeer, im with you!

Great slide plate design and i understand the need to demo it but having to explain it to people is scary. Guys if your out there shooting with 35mm depth, 2575 heads, filters, 300mm zooms, 6x6 filters, grads, follow focus, rods, supports, donuts etc etc please use trained 1st AC's and grips who know all this stuff backwards. No offence to anyone but all this Pro gear in (some) indy hands scares me.
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Ach well, if it's all out of focus and it's your own gig then you can kick yourself but there's no harm done; if it's a pro gig and you aren't already an experienced 1st AC then then why the hell did they hire you..
 
Jashunter said:
Rocketeer, im with you!

Great slide plate design and i understand the need to demo it but having to explain it to people is scary. Guys if your out there shooting with 35mm depth, 2575 heads, filters, 300mm zooms, 6x6 filters, grads, follow focus, rods, supports, donuts etc etc please use trained 1st AC's and grips who know all this stuff backwards. No offence to anyone but all this Pro gear in (some) indy hands scares me.
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If this scares you then you obviously have missed a lot of stuff on here. I personally gave up on warning people that were clueless a while ago. There are people on here planning to get a red that don't even have the basic skills needed to get much out of a HVX. As far as Im concerned let them buy everything in sight, not know how to use it and lose thousands and have to sell it all for cheap. A bunch of us will be able to pick up barely used reds and used gear for very cheap in 6 or so months. Some people have no idea how over their head they are with this camera and now I really just laugh about it. Some people are going to lose a lot of money on this. Oh well people go buy 5 steadycams for your production and standard speeds at 7k per lens and don't rent any grip, electric gear or hire sound guys that come with a sound package because you should just buy all that as well just buy buy buy. Buying everything is a sure way to fail. If you want to buy a camera and camera support package and have the knowledge, contacts and work to back it up then fine but buying 2 or more cameras with every support gear you can get and lighting/grip/sound ect is crazy as renting is always a better way to go for many things.


I at least feel comfortable recomending good well built equipment like the Element Technica gear as I gave up pointing out what is not neede or stuff people should not buy a long time ago because they just argue and are not worth the time or effort as they buy it anyway.


RANT DONE

People wont be sorry for buying ET/red gear but there will be many things they think they need that they will be sorry for buying.
 
Totally agree, Their stuff is fantastic (the breakout box is a FANTASTIC solution, sadly to a problem that should never have existed) and apologies to ET for foolishly and impulsively hijacking the thread really. The more, like you, i read of people clearly over their heads the more the subject deserves a thread all by it's self. Im personally standing by for when there's enough bodies out there that 2nd hand red ones stop going for stupid money, then i'll strike :-)

In the meantime i'm butting out.
 
Awesome Daren!

Where is the Red badge you had implanted on your crotch? .... You cut your hair?.... I am so confused ..... ; )

Nice Work!

Cheers,
Rich

Ps. this stuff is a great opportunity for non-pros! It is hard to break and they will learn the big boy gear.
 
Nice video. RED should put that right on their site so people understand what's going on. :)
 
richcam1 said:
Ps. this stuff is a great opportunity for non-pros! It is hard to break and they will learn the big boy gear.
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I agree 100%. Thing is 99.5% of the big boys rent 99% of their gear as they know it is the best way to go. That and they don't just buy gear randomly, they buy gear after they have rented and used it a few times and know it is the right fit for their look and style.
 
Abu Reno said:
Then how does Daren have one without his camera? Red won't sell you accessories until you are next in line, right?
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When you are showing a product, the manufacturer will always supply the product, or samples. In this case, it was ET by some means.

Was waiting to hear "But wait, there's more..." Great job Finner.
 
Thanks for the review, Finner. The ET gear looks great, and I also was very impressed at LART.

We are currently considering our options for plates and tripods since our RED plate/dovetail is a bit loose. I have a feeling the RED / ET relationship will continue to grow.

thanks again,
 
That would be one big/chunky box to have audio connections as well as SDI - it would cover the whole side of the camera. I'm guessing there will be an audio breakout box that adds additional functionality coming at some point from someone. Hey, might be a good opportunity for someone here....
 
An audio break away cable will be very useful as opposed to a box connected to the camera. I think there are some folks already working on or producing a breakaway cable with the mini plugs. I'm gonna go broke getting all these great 3rd party toys...but they are needed. In my 25 years in the biz I've yet to come across an audio tech that has mini XLR's in his kit.
 
I have only one issue with the video. The dovetail plate that marries directly to the O'Connor head is actually an Arri concept -- they came up with it first. In the video an old Arri dovetail is shown. I do still think that the Element echnica plates are very nice and I believe less expensive than the Arri, but credit where credit is due. There are now a number of manufacturers making these style dovetail plates and I imagine that all will simply convert to this soon enough.

Mitch Gross
Abel Cine Tech
 
Nice job Finner. I bet this video answers a lot of the basic questions that keep getting asked.

As much as we wish we were the clever ones that came up with the idea of combining these two dovetail profiles, it was in fact Arriflex. Besides Arri and Element, I know that OConnor is making a version of this and as Mitch pointed out probably a number of others.

Our new 1030 dovetail on the other hand will be an Element exclusive although credit goes to the 1030 owners on this forum. They identified the requirement and helped steer the ultimate feature set. Because the 1030 dovetail is narrower we had to re-visit the spring loaded safety. We are so pleased with the new design we will be using it on future runs of the full size dovetails.

As for an audio breakout box...
 
Audio gurus please chime in about an audio breakout box. I would love an Element audio breakout box, small as possible, please.

Does anyone know if it would be possible to have the channel 1 input on the box be re-routed to camera channels 1 and 2 with the flip of a switch and maintain signal integrity?
 
Daren,

Thanks for doing this. It really helped clear up the relationship between the base plate, dovetail and O'Connor head. I was about to finalize my 2060 order and this was very helpful.

Cheers,

M
 
Base Plates

Base Plates

K4.54362 this Base plate style has been around for several years, bypassing the O'Connor quick release sys. So ET are remarkable, i agree.
But they are not re-inventing the wheel.
 
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