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Economical fluid head and sticks...

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Can anyone recommend the best for the buck fluid head/sticks combo for the red?

thanks for your input.
 
kowboy said:
O'Connor.

Sorry, I had to. (It's the best for the buck.)
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O'Connor
The 1030 HD, or 1030 HDS? * I think its the 1030, but not %100 sure *
 
rockoblm said:
O'Connor
The 1030 HD, or 1030 HDS? * I think its the 1030, but not %100 sure *
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I just ordered the 1030HDS.

Remember that the camera will easily push 35LBS when fully built (even more with a big zoom). Make sure your tri-pod can perform with that kind of weight.

Dylan Macleod
Cinematographer
Toronto, Canada
www.dylanmacleod.com
 
more like 45lbs with a cine style zoom and appropriate aks. and with the possibility to clock in at 60-65lbs when everything is heaviest available.
 
natec said:
more like 45lbs with a cine style zoom and appropriate aks. and with the possibility to clock in at 60-65lbs when everything is heaviest available.
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...then that's an O'connor 2575 fer sure.

My 1030HDS is for the "slimmed down" build, which I weighed on a scale as 31LBS. Camera, LCD, prime lens, 4x4 production mattebox, follow focus. No DRIVE. Battery of course.

Dylan Macleod
Cinematographer
Toronto, Canada
www.dylanmacleod.com
 
Isn't the O'connor 2060HD better for the task?
 
main problem is once you cross some invisible line of around 45-55lb capacity you must use a head with 150mm or mitchell base (entirely right and appropriate as 100mm doesn't have enough "grab" to hold onto much more) which then forces you to use heavier sticks, and in a lot of cases that means separate std and baby legs. suddenly your package just got big and unwieldy. so the choice is smaller tripod and head combo that will only work in some circumstances (limiting lens choice, etc) or a beast that could potentially slow you down.
of course the simple solution is to buy both :) and use what is appropriate for each job...
 
i would buy the smaller and rent the big head if needed.

btw. abel cine has a red special price for the o`connor...
but maybe BJ is cheaper
 
The best option on a budget?

Used. In good condition of course. A high-quality head can be rebuilt.

I love the O'Connor 2575.

Good shooting and best regards,

Leo
 
gdv said:
Isn't the O'connor 2060HD better for the task?
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Yes, at almost twice the price of the 1030.

It really depends on what you are building the camera to do.

I am purchasing a head for more slimmed down applications under 40lbs. The 1030 HDS is perfect.

For heavier studio shoots I'd rent a 2575...just what I'm used to. The 2060 looks like a nice head too.

Dylan Macleod
Cinematographer
Toronto, Canada
www.dylanmacleod.com
 
For most ordinary projects, a simple camera would do. For example a Sony EX1 fully decked out with all optional accessories: 5 lbs.
An ordinary $199, 5 lbs fluid head would be more than sufficient for Sony Ex1.
I get nightmares thinking about a poor DP lugging a 50 lbs camera and 50 lbs tripod .
 
what about an O'Connor 100c? Any experience to share? What are the specs? Can't find them...(I must be googlechallenged)
 
chuckt said:
For most ordinary projects, a simple camera would do. For example a Sony EX1 fully decked out with all optional accessories: 5 lbs.
An ordinary $199, 5 lbs fluid head would be more than sufficient for Sony Ex1.
I get nightmares thinking about a poor DP lugging a 50 lbs camera and 50 lbs tripod .
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That's why we have grips!

Dylan Macleod
Cinematographer
Toronto Canada
www.dylanmacleod.com
 
chuckt said:
For most ordinary projects, a simple camera would do. For example a Sony EX1 fully decked out with all optional accessories: 5 lbs.
An ordinary $199, 5 lbs fluid head would be more than sufficient for Sony Ex1.
I get nightmares thinking about a poor DP lugging a 50 lbs camera and 50 lbs tripod .
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Uh... DP's don't carry the setup - AC's and Grips do that. And what set of sticks weighs 50lbs.?

I get nightmares thinking about a poor ChuckT using a RED camera...:holloween:
 
I remember reading an interesting point by Finner (that was then backed up by Digitalfx's tests) that the 2575 might not be the best choice because it needs (like others) a certain level of weight to perform optimally and that a RED cam, with gear, might not actually weigh enough to hit that threshold.

Leo, have you (or other 2575 users) found that to be the case?
 
I have never had a problem of any kind with the 2575, however my VariCam rig is very heavy; Matte Box & Follow Focus, Panasonic 8.4" monitor on a heavy duty Israeli arm, and Anton-Bauer 140.

On the O’Connor 100C, I had a couple of them and found them most distasteful; maybe because mine were almost as old as I am, but they are just beasts. Hard to adjust the counter balance and don't have smooth let off on the locks. Comparison to the 2575 is like a farm tractor to a Porsche.

Good shooting!

Leo
 
A Red One in even it's lightest configuration will work great on a 2575.

The truth is that there is no one right answer for a proper tripod. It depends on what your use is -- that's why there are so many tripod models out there. I think the Sachtler Cine-30 is an amazing design for a RED and very versatile (did you know it will take an Element Technica - type sliding baseplate just like a large O'Connor head?). But I would never claim it to be the end-all/be-all solution. That's why we're offering so many bundles on tripods to Redusers -- it's horses for courses.

Btw, since enough people have asked for it, we are offering the option of dropping the Europlates from the O'Connor 2060 & 2575 bundles. This way you don't have to pay for it if you are planning to use an Element Technica - style baseplate. For the Sachtler Video-30 they standardly ship a simple metal cheeseplate so you might as well get it. There would be no savings not to. But the ET baseplate as well as a Europlate will fit.
 
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