Dragon low end predominantly red noise & high speed question & Ultraprime coverage

[Mark L. Pederson]

I read somewhere that the average IRE of the movie "Drive" was 25

Really goofy IMO to refer to a movie as having an IRE. IRE is a relative measurement for a video signal.

I'd start to get excited if one day people start to talk about contrast ratios for movies - since that's the key to all the magic anyway

 

[Zeb B]

Really goofy IMO to refer to a movie as having an IRE. IRE is a relative measurement for a video signal.

I'd start to get excited if one day people start to talk about contrast ratios for movies - since that's the key to all the magic anyway

Perhaps they used the wrong term - you get the drift - it was shot in the dark

 

[Will Keir]

I was thinking the same thought you probably had when I watched "drive." "Wow, they barely lit anything, we could do this with a micro budget, a few actors and our camera!"

In actuality, it was hardly shot "in the dark."

Drive looked simple but a lot of work went into lighting, play back the fist chase scene, try and find where all the light scources are coming from. They not only light the car interior but all the exteriors outside the car are lit from cranes. Looks simple, very well executed technique of an artistic vision.

Perhaps they used the wrong term - you get the drift - it was shot in the dark

 

[Matt Ryan]

I was thinking the same thought you probably had when I watched "drive." "Wow, they barely lit anything, we could do this with a micro budget, a few actors and our camera!"

In actuality, it was hardly shot "in the dark."

Drive looked simple but a lot of work went into lighting, play back the fist chase scene, try and find where all the light scources are coming from. They not only light the car interior but all the exteriors outside the car are lit from cranes. Looks simple, very well executed technique of an artistic vision.

You're right Will. It's a huge misconception that dark films have low light levels or available light only when in reality to the eye on set it may look like daylight with all the lighting sources used. You need light to expose an image, light and shadows to create contrast, and light to give yourself a decent working stop for focus. If you don't want noise in dark situations, use light or don't complain about the noise. But don't believe for a second that the majority of films are shot in low or available light, because even most daylight exteriors are "lit."

The car scenes in Drive were lit mainly with light panels on a dmx controller and gelled for differing effects.

This in no way means Dragon can't be tweaked more. I really hope it can get cleaned up even more. I would like a camera I can take onto every job because it excels at every category. Right now, I prefer the old olpf for being much cleaner on the low end.

 

[Zeb B]

Whatever

 

[David Wakeley]

Ok Guys, hopefully the fix is imminent.
Now, the rest of my question..... What happened to 300fps (25 time base) @ 2Kws & 400fps @ 1k? In fact what's happened to 1k?? Max I can get on Dragon is 295fps.
Also, I am assuming that 'Dragon 2' is what is in my Epic, delivered early June '14.
David Wakeley. Sydney.

 

[Will Keir]

Buying Super Speed lenses help... but just a little

Whatever

 

[Matt Ryan]

Whatever

haha but keep in mind Dragon could use a tweak... Right now I prefer the old olpf since it was much cleaner. I guess if I have to shoot in low light right now without lights I'll rent a c300 or 1Dc... A bit depressing...